My J's Racing Intake Installation...

[rvm]

Damn, nice job Jokeshopbeard maybe you can create another thread showing us your intake

 

[jugbugz]

Yeah, I know, didn't realise the Spoon cover was a carbon/kevlar weave until after I'd brought it, been waiting on delivery for nearly 2 months & will be for sale as soon as it arrives, so first dibs available if anybody wants it...

Got my eyes on this cover: Envy Performance Ltd: Carbon Fibre Plug Cover since I cant seem for find a UK distributor for the Vision one you mentioned...

Anways, cheers for the kind words jugz & stay posted for those dimentions....

I've asked about a Vision carbon plug cover for you. it is;
-Vision Carbon plug cover for ek9 B16B : 9450yen

Much cheaper than ENVY perf.

Btw, is your box made from Aluminium?

 

[Jokeshopbeard]

yeah, the whole thing is crafted from sheet aluminium.

Didn't get a chance to get it off the car this weekend & take the dimensions, normally like to spend a good few hours workin on the car every weekend but the woman needed some attention more than the car this time

Sorry about not keepin up on that promise but will defo those templates/dimensions on paper done next weekend, promised myself a full day with the car

Cheers for lookin that cover up for me jugbugz, i'll definately take it. you mind PM'ing me to let me know details, how to pay etc?

 

[jugbugz]

haha, the misses hate it when we spend more time on our cars than on her. lol Balance mate, 'balance'

PM sent!

i went to an aluminium fabricator yesterday for the guys to have a look at making a box, and I noticed that my pod filter end of the intake is sitting tilted a lot higher than yours, i guess you had to tilt it down to get the filter to fit under the lid correct?

They quoted a couple of hundred dollars omgosh! lol.

I'll be waiting for your dimensions lol.

 

[Jokeshopbeard]

Ah, that sweet balance, why is that so difficult when it comes to women Still, gotta love em..

So yeah, the intake, I've had to tilt it all the way down so that the filter is sitting touching the top of the inner arch, seems fine though, although I think it is just a little squashed under the lid of the box. Maybe out by about 2-3mm or so...

Not sure if you can see from my pics, but I also managed to get hold of some of the rubber gasket shown in the attached photo, real useful stuff & i highly recommend it, makes everything look so neat!!

Will get the box all measured up this weekend, will also get the front bumper off & run my ducting from behind the bumper vent, what material are you using for the ducting for your installation?

P.s Cheers for PM, reply sent!

 

[jugbugz]

Yeah, we was looking at the clearances and noticed that your was sitting lower. I think I might make mine slightly different by trying to get the pod filter sit as high as possible and increase the box volume because the J's Pod filter is pretty damn BIG.

Right now, its sitting very high, and my bonnet presses down onto the shield slightly. It doesn't rattle or anything, its just theres plenty of room because of the bonnet bone-moulds. Some people just put a single plate running vertically to cut off the heat from the engine and without a lid on top as they said the bonnet moulds closes down right on top of the inserted plate seal. hmmmm, I don't know about that though...

I'll see what I can come up with to maximise area volume in the box. Can't wait!!!

btw, you should mass produce yours and sell it locally. lol I'm thinking about it if it turns out well.

This is what I used for my ducting. I don't know why I haven't got any pics of the new position of where the duct is sitting right now, but these are pics from my Cold Air STOCK INTAKE MOD. I'm still using the same duct except now it runs from my bumper ans straight up. I'll take pics soon.

Surprisingly it doesn't move. Also that duct I got can be set in any position as it clicks and locks whatever position you set. I was lucky to find this in an Auto shop. lol

STOCK INTAKE setting

STOCK INTAKE setting

Cheers for the info jokeshopbeard!

Also please becareful when you do cut the holes out of the foglight blockoff plate. You can noticed on the above pic how straight mine has been cut around the edges. Its something that you need to be SUPER careful and PATIENT, make sure you have every tool you need.

 

[Jokeshopbeard]

Ok, so i finally got those dimensions up!!!

They're drawn exactly to scale, & will have to be printed out on A3 for the scale to match. I've had a few issues getting these scanned in to the bloody scanner angry2 at work, but I put a few control measurements on the diagrams so if you print them out & the control measurements are off, then the whole lot will be out so let me know & i'll start again..

I've attached the files in .pdf format, so if this is no good please let me know & i'll email you the files in either .tif or jpg format as they are too large to add as attachments. See them below:

A good plan if you get them printed out would be to knock up some cardboard templates and then use the attached diagrams as a basic template, as im sure the design can be improved on

One specific area thats a tricky b*stard is where the engine mount sits in front of the suspension turret, see here:

it got me to wondering how I can go about making sure the airbox is properly sealed, as im sure it would perform better if it was a completely sealed box. If you guys have any ideas please let me know or watch this space for future updates, cause I really think completey sealing it will be well worth it, just to keep the volume of air within the box, without it being allowed to flow out of the gap where the engine mount sits.

A couple of pics of the 2 separate pieces of the box so you can get a good idea of the construction:

Anyways, good luck to anyone who gives these a try, love to hear how you get on & please let me know if theres anything else i can do to help out..

And to jugbugz, thanks for the information in the above post mate, gonna get that bumper off & run the ducting asap, will let you know how i get on. Good luck with the box, lookin forward to your updates!!

 

[b16 mini]

very nice job, looks v good wonder if making a box out of fibre glass would be any good, wouldnt be to hard to shape it around the engine mount area and could make a fully sealed box,.. messy stuff but could work?

 

[Jokeshopbeard]

Beautiful idea!, would be real easy to just layer the turret, engine mount & intake in cling film & fibreglass over the top.... only problem would be doing the uprights for the sides of the box but could be done with templates. Like you say, messy, horrible bloody stuff to work with, but would be far easier to make a sealed enclosure.

Got a good few weekends worth of work on the car comin up but i'm gonna have a play with that one. Cheers for the idea man!!

 

[b16 mini]

glad you like the idea, i'l probably give it a go as well when i finally get my but in gear and buy a 9, lol

 

[moon*]

hey.. we have the same idea

but mine is complete 1 piece and i cut a hole @ my bumper for the CAI.
here's some pics.

Anyways, good luck to anyone who gives these a try, love to hear how you get on & please let me know if theres anything else i can do to help out..

And to jugbugz, thanks for the information in the above post mate, gonna get that bumper off & run the ducting asap, will let you know how i get on. Good luck with the box, lookin forward to your updates!!

 

[jugbugz]

moon*: nice job!

 

[jugbugz]

jokeshopbeard: Thanks for the dimensions! Your a champion to many!

This will help heaps!!! I'm sure it's given more ideas on the design to everyone who wants to do this mod or just simply copy it

Regarding the gap on the intake box;

I recommend you don't need the box to be completely sealed, especially that area behind the pod filter.

your car is constantly moving forwards which means every mass infront of that gap is moving away from the air in that gap. ( i hope you know what I mean)

Also it gives more volume of air to further enter through your duct continously even when your foot is off the throttle while your car is still moving forwards.

If you seal it off completely, you will cause turbulance at the entry of your air duct, which creates an unstable pressure and flow.

I reccommend leaving it which will just let the air to continuously flow through. Air wont flow backwards as long as your car is going forwards, so you won't suck hot air.

Hope that solves your worries.

 

[moon*]

eheh.. thanks bro,

ehm.. mebbe i wanna further mod the heatshield.

cos now its completely one piece; if i wanna clean airfilter n all i gotta remove the whole entire thing. mebbe thinking to custom make it so it can flip open like a door

moon*: nice job!

 

[jugbugz]

I think you should make something like jokebeardshop's.

 

[Jokeshopbeard]

Regarding the gap on the intake box;

I recommend you don't need the box to be completely sealed, especially that area behind the pod filter.

your car is constantly moving forwards which means every mass infront of that gap is moving away from the air in that gap. ( i hope you know what I mean)

Also it gives more volume of air to further enter through your duct continously even when your foot is off the throttle while your car is still moving forwards.

If you seal it off completely, you will cause turbulance at the entry of your air duct, which creates an unstable pressure and flow.

I reccommend leaving it which will just let the air to continuously flow through. Air wont flow backwards as long as your car is going forwards, so you won't suck hot air.

Hope that solves your worries.

Yeah man, that makes sense now, have admit the bit about the mass infront of that gap moving away from the air in that gap confuses me a little, but what you said about turbulance at the entry of your air duct makes perfect sense to me. Put my mind at rest about it, even more happy with the current design now!!!!

Cheers for another beautiful write up jugbogz, your a diamond mate!!

 

[jugbugz]

lol, i hope others find the info as useful

Ok, Think about it like this.

Say the air around us is stationary and there is NO WIND blowing about. If your moving at 60kmph, then its not the air thats moving 60kmph, its MASS(your car). So the same thing happens in the engine bay. MASS is moving against air.

As air enters into your air box, it needs to go somewhere and it has 2 places to go to;

1. Inducted by your engine.
2. Pass through your enclosed box into engine bay.

If you enclose the whole box, you'll end up having too much air cramming up when it isn't inducted by your engine. Then it creates an unbalanced pressure and disrupts flow at the tip of your hose duct.

It is better to let the air continuosly travel through your duct.

Just think about when your travelling 100kmph on the freeway and on 1/4 throttle. Theres no way you car is even inducting more than 20% of the amount of air cramming into your box.

Thats why my shield works. Its basically stopping hot air being drawn towards the filter. And I have cold air entering and ramming against my pod filter and shield. As long as air is flowing on your pod filter, hot air is being pushed away at the same time.

 

[vtisedan]

vti sedan: your going to love this mod.

Indeed.....
Sorry but i was sick about 2 weeks...There was a damn disease that cost me 2 weeks of bedtime...But i am ok now.So...back 2 work!!!
Will post as soon as possible pics from my new ram-air tube.

@Jokeshopbeard: I congratulate you for your fabrication.Very nice indeed.And as you said, we all own many thanks to Jugbugz for this thread...
Keep Up!!!

 

[vtisedan]

lol, i hope others find the info as useful

Ok, Think about it like this.

Say the air around us is stationary and there is NO WIND blowing about. If your moving at 60kmph, then its not the air thats moving 60kmph, its MASS(your car). So the same thing happens in the engine bay. MASS is moving against air.

As air enters into your air box, it needs to go somewhere and it has 2 places to go to;

1. Inducted by your engine.
2. Pass through your enclosed box into engine bay.

If you enclose the whole box, you'll end up having too much air cramming up when it isn't inducted by your engine. Then it creates an unbalanced pressure and disrupts flow at the tip of your hose duct.

It is better to let the air continuosly travel through your duct.

Just think about when your travelling 100kmph on the freeway and on 1/4 throttle. Theres no way you car is even inducting more than 20% of the amount of air cramming into your box.

Thats why my shield works. Its basically stopping hot air being drawn towards the filter. And I have cold air entering and ramming against my pod filter and shield. As long as air is flowing on your pod filter, hot air is being pushed away at the same time.

So, we must NOT completely seal the pod filter into an enclosed box.Is that right?

 

[jugbugz]

So, we must NOT completely seal the pod filter into an enclosed box.Is that right?

Jokeshopbeard has a small hole at the back of his box behind at the read end of the pod filter. This is good to let un-inducted air to pass througt to the engine bay. It will create better uninterupted air flow to the pod filter. Check out his pictures.

Thanks for your kind words!