K20A - A few home truths.


Took a couple of shots, the car is off the ramp now so not the best but hopefully the downward angle can be seen.

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ABS issue.

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Clearance/exposure shot.

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woow engine sump sits far too low !
no comments about the headers clear to the ground !

i dont want to make you feel bad mate
i still believe that k swap works good on light hondas like eg/ek's special for 0-400 races
 
wow thats some mega low clearance on the sump and header! :( and the ABS is well weged in! I am very sorry to hear about all your troubles and hope you get it sorted, keep your head up mate and it will be worth it in the end! :)
 
The sump on my starlet is lower then that Chris, on 14 inch wheel i popped 2 sumps, on 15's i found it was just fine. If your running 50 profile will help a tad to go 55 or maybe even 16's but not sure if you want to do that? At that clearance i would say you will be fine over bumps providing you dont go 2 fast, but you wouldnt want to go fast over bumps anyway.

Cannot believe how close your header is to your ABS pump! Well its literally touching, looks like its pushing on it quite hard.

Thats not good at all, i wouldnt be a happy bunny.
 
Its touching on the header and steering rack, it is wedged and totally useless at the moment. I have twelve 15" alloys for this car so I dont want to change!

I may try an Rcrew header as there is one available or I may go custom depending on the quote as it will clear all the issues plus sort the exhaust mating and save me time & money.
 
the sump on my egk20 is just like that, took it out on a test run and it was skimming the floor on bumpy roads :( had to adjust the coilovers and put 16's on it. Seems a lot better now but not ideal. Keep on going though man, the conversion is immense when its done!
 
The ABS pump, DrMikey moved the ABS pump for clearance issues on his old K20 EK9 shell that he sold to build an EK4 shell, tehres a pic of where it was moved too, i'll try and dig it out

Could always ditch the ABS though :nerv:

Sad to hear that with the amount of folk doing this swap, the swap "specific" parts still have issues :((
 
Looks as if the manifold is designed for a lhd (i'm sure you know that already),take it you never got the longer subframe bolts with the teg subframe?
At least its getting there Chris :nice:
 
stevenEK9 said:
The ABS pump, DrMikey moved the ABS pump for clearance issues on his old K20 EK9 shell that he sold to build an EK4 shell, tehres a pic of where it was moved too, i'll try and dig it out:((
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No that was a custom header I had made for my original EK4 K20 and the fitted to my EK9 - trying to be different lol - and just moved the ABS pump over but running a different header now.

But I am at a loss why Tom can't get the header to fit. I've done 3 EK K20 swaps with SSR headers and never had a problem. The K swap SSR headers are all the same - for EG/DC/EK, LHD, RHD etc. - it doesnt matter they are all the same design and fitment. Yes I have had to trim the bonnet which may still be the issue for you Chris.

Im running a Hytech header (which is basically what SSR copied for theirs). Here are some pics of the fitment and then a pic of an SSR header on its own. I'm not running ABS in this car but I did in my old EK9 and had no problems.

I'm also running on the higher holes mounts and have no issues.

All I can say is if you are fed up, bring it up to us and we'll finish it off. No offence to Tom, but he has never done a K swap before, and obviously swapping an engine into a car that it wasnt designed for is going to cause some head scratching for him - just check out the amount of newby questions on K20.org lol

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Thanks for the pics Mike, going to chat to him tomorrow, as you know I have the Seibon and maybe it is that the underside is different. On the Seibon at the moment I need to trim the panelling for the oil cap and it just looks like it will be right tight against the actual underside after, if the engine goes up on the higher holes it looks like I cant shut the bonnet. But as you say yours is okay.

Maybe I will refit my oem hood after crisis talks. Im not overly fussed to lose the ABS, having had cars without it, but I would prefer it. Will bell you after I speak to Tom mate.

David - no I didnt, I assumed I could use the EK bolts, I didnt even think about it really, its like anything you have not done before, you can miss the simple things and not knowing the right questions to ask.
 
Anybody confirm 100% if the facelift & prefacelift have the same ABS pump?
 
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Anybody confirm 100% if the facelift & prefacelift have the same ABS pump?
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I am really sorry to hear about this mate!:nono:

I know this was not in your plan to take this long, but hopfuly worth all this hassle once your back out on track with her!:nice:

As far as i am aware they are the same ABS pump, i have never noticed a diffrence when working on eather!
Someone please correct me if i am wrong though!

Good luck getting this all finished asap mate!:nice:
 
just relocate the ABS pump elsewhere in the engine bay, theres no real reason why it has to be where it is,,, did TGM advise you to fit an integra subframe / rack etc when you were discussing this conversion with them?

i would hold off chopping your bonnet for the moment until you are 100% happy with the engine location,


this shows the header / cat / b pipe transition on the K20 conversion we carried out into a DC2, its a DC sports K swap header,,

cat is on a slight angle in 2 planes but its teh best we could do with what we had and works well,

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Hope it all comes good James. Fed up with all the phone calls, emailing and the trips out, a very frustrating time.

Got all the DC2 donor parts. Not worried about the bonnet, anything to make it work! But it seems that if I have the engine on the high mount at the back it will actually be lower not higher, so it would make the header angle even worse. Your exhaust looks way different to mine, for the better.

Had one quote for a custom so far and it is good, waiting on two more.
 
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Your exhaust looks way different to mine, for the better.
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its just a dc sports manifold, generic 2.75" freeflow cat and the b pipe is part of a HKS silent hi power system, as i say though this is on a dc2 , we seem to have allot more ground clearance than yours though, i will get justin to post up what version of motor mounts he bought,,


as you say tehre are lots of hidden expenses with K20 conversions,
radiator,
induction,
rad fans,
conversion harness,
temp sender hose insert,
rad hoses,
throttle cable,
kpro ecu,
mapping,
rbc inlet manofoltd - throttle body,
cable gearchange conversion brackets,
new clutch leads to lightened flywheel whilst your in there etc etc etc,

think it worked out at about 8.5k ish all in to get the K20 in Justins dc2 and that was with all teh work being done in house,

you will like it in the end though its a nice engine and a completely different feel to the b series :drive::drive:
 
While making enquiries, I mailed Skunk2, K-Tuned, Hybrid Racing, on their respective Kswap headers.

Hybrid never got back to me, K-Tuned only part answered and Skunk2 replied with..

"You do realise this is a Kswap header and you have an EK9, which has a B16 in it, we are confused"

My mail was very clear, mentioning Hasport EKK2 mounts for one, why else would I ask about a Kswap header.
 
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While making enquiries, I mailed Skunk2, K-Tuned, Hybrid Racing, on their respective Kswap headers.
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may be worth dropping drmikey on here a pm and find out who made his header for him etc,, :nice:
 
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