B16B stroked to 1.8 with TODA parts...


ManosEK9 said:
Πιασε τα Skunk2 Stage 2 ρε, εχω τα τζαι ειναι χαρμα στεσ ψηλεσ στροφεσ! :clap: Τα Toda Spec B δουλευκουν καλυτερα ενδιαμεσα. Εξαρταται φυσικα ηντα που προτιμασ
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re file na kanonisoumen na vre8oumen gia na me pareis kanena giro na do. ti alla pramata eshis pano?
 
jugbugz said:
wtf is that?

anyway, I guess that goes to show that it's not easy making the power you wish to make with cams. That test was on a 1.8 so on a 1.6, gains should be less. Still they didn't mention the CR of the engine.
man...:angry2:
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WTF you translate of? :lol: Lost in translation :angry: Nice movie BTW! :D Naughty Scarlett Johansson!! :naughty:
 
seriously guys please speak English, or just pm each other...

i dunno man... what is the tuner saying?
 
:lol: that was weird hey...

Captain Blinx: I might just ask him today, I'm not sure if he would know much about Hondas as his whole workshop is full of Skyline GTRs everyday lol

I think most likely I'll order Spec A even though they are all the same price... :angry: I do want to maintain the stock idle characteristics and it'l be interesting to see how far the Spec A cams can go with 1.8 crank + ITR rods + CTR pistons.

Heres a link on what I've found with other people discussing about Spec A and B. It's on Team Integra forum, and yes it is a 1.8 they're talking about. Couldn't believe the gains made over the Spec B on 12CR.
http://www.team-integra.net/forum/d...19703&ReturnPage=&PagePosition=0&ThreadPage=1

190whp with 11.3CR with the smaller skunk stg1 cams. Toda Spec A will give more... :D
 
hmmm, check out buddy club Spec 3 cams which are used for CR between 11-13. 14whp gain on a B16.

Spec 3 plus.
INLET 25° BTDC 45° ABDC 296° 11.4mm 0.008
EXHAUST 45° BBDC 20° ATDC 290° 11.8mm 0.009

Spec 4 needs a minimum of 12.5CR lol
INLET 37° BTDC 49° ABDC 306° 12.3mm 0.007
EXHAUST 61° BBDC 21° ATDC 302° 11.8mm 0.008

Blinx what do you think about the spec of 3 vs toda A?
 

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wow that was a great thread, thank you jugbugs, if your shooting for around 190-215whp then sure the toda A's certainly are the cam for you. i just though perhaps you wanted more than that. thats the only reason i suggested B's. get the A's i think thell work out good.
 
check this table (sorry, i know its a bad table, but i think you'll understand :D)

Cam Specs (B - Series)
Manufacturer | Intake (lift in mm) | Intake (duration @ 1mm) | Exaust (lift in mm) | Exaust (duration @ 1mm) |

Toda Spec A 11.6 250 11.2 24
Toda Spec B 12 255 12 245
Toda Spec C 12.5 255 12.5 255
Jun Type 1 10.9 265.3 10 268
Jun Type 2 12.0 266.6 10.9 265.3
Jun Type 3 12.0 265.3 11.5 265.3
Spoon Sports 11.53 256 11.13 245
Skunk 2 stage1 11.58 252 10.9 249
Skunk2 stage 2 12.3 266 11.8 262
Skunk2 stage 3 12.8 273 11.5 273
Crower 63400 10.72 234 9.6 234
Crower 63401 11.38 249 10.54 240
Crower 63401T 11.81 230 11.3 226
Crower 63402 11.84 258 11.84 251
Crower 63402A 11.84 246 11.81 239
Crower 63403 12.04 267 11.84 257
Integra Type R 11.5 240 10.5 235
Civic Type R 11.5 243 10.5 235


and for additional info, check this link:
http://www.isitaboat.co.uk/cars/honda_civic_type_r__ek9_/cams.txt
 
JDMjunkies.ch said:
check this table (sorry, i know its a bad table, but i think you'll understand :D)

Cam Specs (B - Series)
Manufacturer | Intake (lift in mm) | Intake (duration @ 1mm) | Exaust (lift in mm) | Exaust (duration @ 1mm) |

Toda Spec A 11.6 250 11.2 24
Toda Spec B 12 255 12 245
Toda Spec C 12.5 255 12.5 255
Jun Type 1 10.9 265.3 10 268
Jun Type 2 12.0 266.6 10.9 265.3
Jun Type 3 12.0 265.3 11.5 265.3
Spoon Sports 11.53 256 11.13 245
Skunk 2 stage1 11.58 252 10.9 249
Skunk2 stage 2 12.3 266 11.8 262
Skunk2 stage 3 12.8 273 11.5 273
Crower 63400 10.72 234 9.6 234
Crower 63401 11.38 249 10.54 240
Crower 63401T 11.81 230 11.3 226
Crower 63402 11.84 258 11.84 251
Crower 63402A 11.84 246 11.81 239
Crower 63403 12.04 267 11.84 257
Integra Type R 11.5 240 10.5 235
Civic Type R 11.5 243 10.5 235


and for additional info, check this link:
http://www.isitaboat.co.uk/cars/honda_civic_type_r__ek9_/cams.txt
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Nice info bro :clap:, those S2 Stage 3 have crazy ass numbers!! :shocked:
 
you're welcome ;)

btw: many people told me that the buddyclub cams are very good, but i have no idea :D
 
JDMjunkies.ch said:
check this table (sorry, i know its a bad table, but i think you'll understand :D)

Cam Specs (B - Series)
Manufacturer | Intake (lift in mm) | Intake (duration @ 1mm) | Exaust (lift in mm) | Exaust (duration @ 1mm) |

Toda Spec A 11.6 250 11.2 24
Toda Spec B 12 255 12 245
Toda Spec C 12.5 255 12.5 255
Jun Type 1 10.9 265.3 10 268
Jun Type 2 12.0 266.6 10.9 265.3
Jun Type 3 12.0 265.3 11.5 265.3
Spoon Sports 11.53 256 11.13 245
Skunk 2 stage1 11.58 252 10.9 249
Skunk2 stage 2 12.3 266 11.8 262
Skunk2 stage 3 12.8 273 11.5 273
Crower 63400 10.72 234 9.6 234
Crower 63401 11.38 249 10.54 240
Crower 63401T 11.81 230 11.3 226
Crower 63402 11.84 258 11.84 251
Crower 63402A 11.84 246 11.81 239
Crower 63403 12.04 267 11.84 257
Integra Type R 11.5 240 10.5 235
Civic Type R 11.5 243 10.5 235


and for additional info, check this link:
http://www.isitaboat.co.uk/cars/honda_civic_type_r__ek9_/cams.txt
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Nice table but I think you got some/alot details wrong... how can you compare SPOON and Skunk stg1 with Toda A? :angry: :mad: :angry:

Civic Type-R And Integra Type-R (Integra Type R 2000/01 Spec)
Int-243 dur. / 11.5mm lift
Exh-235 dur. / 10.5mm lift

Integra Type-R (Through 1999 Spec)
Int-240 dur. / 11.5mm lift
Exh-235 dur. / 10.5mm lift

TODA Spec A
Int-290 dur. / 11.6mm lift
Exh-280 dur. / 11.2mm lift

Toda Spec B
Int-295 dur. / 12.0mm lift
Exh-285 dur. / 12.0mm lift

Toda Spec C
Int-295 dur. / 12.5mm lift
Exh-295 dur. / 12.5mm lift

Toda Spec D
Int-305 dur. / 12.9mm lift
Exh-315 dur. / 11.9mm lift

JUN Type 1
Int-265 dur. / 10.9mm lift
Exh-268 dur. / 10.0mm lift

JUN Type 2
Int-267 dur. / 12.0mm lift
Exh-265 dur. / 10.9mm lift

JUN Type 3
Int-265 dur. / 12.0mm lift
Exh-265 dur. / 11.5mm lift

Spoon Sports
Int-256 dur. / 11.5mm lift
Exh-245 dur. / 11.1mm lift

Skunk2 Stage 1
Int-252 dur. / 11.5mm lift
Exh-249 dur. / 10.8mm lift

Skunk2 Stage 2
Int-266 dur. / 12.3mm lift
Exh-262 dur. / 11.8mm lift

Skunk2 Stage 3
Int-270 dur. / 12.8mm lift
Exh-279 dur. / 11.8mm lift

I don't care about crower cams... :lol:

:nice:
 
blinx9900 said:
wow that was a great thread, thank you jugbugs, if your shooting for around 190-215whp then sure the toda A's certainly are the cam for you. i just though perhaps you wanted more than that. thats the only reason i suggested B's. get the A's i think thell work out good.
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hahaha :nice: I knew you would've agreed... and 200whp+ is plenty for the street + reliabilty. But I'm also eyeing on the Buddyclub Spec 3plus as it seems to fit in between Toda Spec A and B. :nerv: What do you think? I think it might give me more head room as it's recommended to be used between 10.0:1-13CR

Toda Spec A
Int-290 dur. / 11.6mm lift
Exh-280 dur. / 11.2mm lift

Buddyclub Spec 3plus
Inlet 296° 11.4mm
Exhaust 290° 11.8mm

Toda Spec B
Int-295 dur. / 12.0mm lift
Exh-285 dur. / 12.0mm lift

MANOS: If you think Skunk stg3 numbers are good, check out Toda Spec D :lol: stg3 got owned...

Toda Spec D
Int-305 dur. / 12.9mm lift
Exh-315 dur. / 11.9mm lift

Skunk2 Stage 3
Int-270 dur. / 12.8mm lift
Exh-279 dur. / 11.8mm lift
 
jugbugz said:
MANOS: If you think Skunk stg3 numbers are good, check out Toda Spec D :lol: stg3 got owned...

Toda Spec D
Int-305 dur. / 12.9mm lift
Exh-315 dur. / 11.9mm lift

Skunk2 Stage 3
Int-270 dur. / 12.8mm lift
Exh-279 dur. / 11.8mm lift
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http://www.importreview.com/reviews/skunk2todadagain.html
:lol: Hey, Jugbugz, anyone can be a champion on the papers LOL!
Toda Spec D(ultra racing :blabla:) got owned by Skunk2 Stage 2(street). I can already imagine Toda's D's not just getting owned by S2 Stage 3, but also getting sold at the same time!! :wow: :lol: Its time to get used to the truth buddy :naughty:
 
ManosEK9 said:
http://www.importreview.com/reviews/skunk2todadagain.html
:lol: Hey, Jugbugz, anyone can be a champion on the papers LOL!
Toda Spec D(ultra racing :blabla:) got owned by Skunk2 Stage 2(street). I can already imagine Toda's D's not just getting owned by S2 Stage 3, but also getting sold at the same time!! :wow: :lol: Its time to get used to the truth buddy :naughty:
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hahaha nice find! :clap:

It's strange huh... oh wells... I wonder how it would do on a 15CR compression motor? I know of 1 B18C over sydney with 15+CR running on race fuel. Can't remember what cams he had though...:(
 
Hi, i got this list from isitaboat.co.uk, a very cool page with very detailed section for EK9 engine details and headers / cams compartment. but i think some manufacturers have changed ther specs yet skunk2 didn't have it's "pro series" cams at this time, etc..
we maybe should make an official cam-information thread, because this isn't really related to the toda-stroked thread :D ??
 
oh wells, atleast we covered many cams for the 1.8 and 1.6L.
 
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