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back on friday though
built to take on the world
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Good stuff role on the new video
back on friday though
built to take on the world
lol
id honestly be very surprised if an ek9 will even come close to a scooby sti, i was out in a totally standard hawk eye and the launch was mental, and the torque through every gear, just kept pulling, ek9's dont feel that quick atall, its all about the sence of speed from it being a small lightweight hatch. think everyone has been racing wrx's with sti spoilers lol
And alot of people are surprised! Launching isnt the speed of the car. Its 4WD so obviously has an advantage to launch at higher RPM and maintain grip.
But on rolling starts there isnt a great deal in it. Remember im going by my Fully stripped out B18C EK9 with 200BHP. Not any old EK9.
Im not an idiot, i know what an STI is, especially the fact that the WRX imports(older models) get beaten and they are around 260BHP. My brother has had 2 so i know. And ive driven them.
And yes they pull really hard due to the torque and gearing, but feeling fast and going fast are 2 completely different things. They are to completely different engines so you cant compare speeds by just going in them.
My friends old 500BHP EVO 8 pulled harder then my 320BHP starlet for sure, pulled like nothing else, but when we raced millions of times it was completely dead even all the way to top speed, every time. 4WD cars with short gearing with good torque tend to give you that very hard pulling sensation making it feel faster then it actually is. Not thats STI's are not fast, but you not what i mean.
Dan what your saying about "sense" of speed and "actual" speed is very very true and very hard to get my head around!
I went out in a 2.8 V6 golf the other day and the amount of torque was unreal compared to my little B16A! it felt soooo quick. Then i let him drive mine and i was the passenger and...my car felt awful! i mean..really really slow compared to the golf when being sat in the passenger seat!
So he said to me "why not have a little race between the both?" so i say ok but your gonna thrash me...seeing as his car FELT so much quicker i didnt think i had a chance.
So we set off...and guess what...my little B16A beat him in every gear every time! yet his felt soooo much faster!
I still cant begin to understand how it works out that way. I know that it's torque that makes a car feel fast and thats why i've never felt a Honda is that quick when sat in the passenger seat but when driving it and racing other cars its unbelievable what happens!
There must be a science to it somewhere lol
more torque makes a car feel really fast
but bhp wins races
bhp is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you take the wall with you
Vtec6000, did you ever actually race a B18C EK9, weather it was stripped/tuned etc? As im only basing what im saying around what has actually happened not what i think would happen dude.
Yes mate I have and im also basing what I'm saying on true facts. Was it a Sti or a Sti type r you raced? Cause my Sti type r on .9 bar could easily sit beside my friends Sti saloon which was running 1.3bar so there is a noticeable difference between those two models.
I raced a couple and to be honest with you they were probably STI's, I dont think i raced a type R model. Im not 100% sure.
I presume the type R is lighter but with same power? The models do tend to confuse. I do know they were STI's though as they were noticeably faster then WRX's and the fact they said STI on them and they look slightly different.
depends on the driver, and the spec of the vxr i guess.