Boost with oem rods


Hello, sorry i know this i an old thread, but to answer your simple question, yes you can run up to about 350whp (i personally would even push to about 380whp for a street car) on stock rods, stock honda rods are forged, there just skinny, however eagle rods which can hold about triple that power figure are only about $300. I have run 14-15 psi on a t3/t04e with oem rods making 317whp, now i run 12psi on a gt3076r making 333whp, still stock rods, hope this helps, sorry to disagree with most of you guys, but unless you have the experience or technical information to back what you say, consider what you type perhaps? it's all too easy to jump on the bandwagon and give wrong info, one person even joking and saying corvette rods, really?
 
blinx9900 said:
Hello, sorry i know this i an old thread, but to answer your simple question, yes you can run up to about 350whp (i personally would even push to about 380whp for a street car) on stock rods, stock honda rods are forged, there just skinny, however eagle rods which can hold about triple that power figure are only about $300. I have run 14-15 psi on a t3/t04e with oem rods making 317whp, now i run 12psi on a gt3076r making 333whp, still stock rods, hope this helps, sorry to disagree with most of you guys, but unless you have the experience or technical information to back what you say, consider what you type perhaps? it's all too easy to jump on the bandwagon and give wrong info, one person even joking and saying corvette rods, really?
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What engine is that on?
 
jp-civic said:
with correct mapping yes, a friend of mine was running 15psi on his b16a2 with stock internals
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Good to now. Here with have one of the best tuners of south/central america, he even made some maps for east US, so the tuning is not a problem.
 
Scottek said:
What engine is that on?
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b16b head b16a block with oem pr4 pistons with modified valve reliefs and oem internals.

walo said:
I finally got 13psi with the stock internal.
The car is making 309whp with 13psi, with pump gas and no problem.

The sping is 13psi, but we can only reached 12psi on the dyno.

Civic VTI turbo 12psi 40-190kmh - YouTube
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awesome brother!!!!!!!

ckram said:
dont try it mate, just wasting of time m money:)
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Go away!!! You don't know what you're talking about, please stop.
 
awesome to see some of you just say plainly NO! but it's so wrong

this summer i went with a bone stock b16a2 and we stopped at 1.3bars or 18.8 psi street tuned on 98oct fuel running Crome Pro/Gold
and this was not with a small turbo i'm running Holset HX40(super 40) 60mm compressor wheel and 0.83 a/r

here is a run with a bad exedy stage 2 clutch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQCgETtx7cE
 
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I think it's more a case of people not reading/misinterpreting what's being said. 12-15 psi on a T88 most certainly won't be good for a standard engine! It's the power being created/turbo, not the pressure you need to watch out for!
 
Probably really stupid question and I don't have the technical knowledge but could someone briefly just tell me by stock internals, what is kept stock, is that like con rods and pistons? And then what is actually changed to turbocharge an engine, is that like exhaust header/manifold, thicker head gasket to reduce compression ratio? Obviously a turbo is needed lol and different ecu? Am i on the right tracks or miles off?
 
By stock it's usually stock rods, pistons, sleeves etc. Depending on what engine you use, you won't need a thicker HG but I can't see the harm. Yeah, things like the turbo, manifold/downpipe/intercooler etc (basically something like a race tech kit), larger injectors, uprated fuel pump, oil lines and fittings are amongst what's needed!
 
best thing to do is buy a totaly stock b18c4 and boost it!:nice: cheap and when it goes bang either replace the engine or forge it.:)
 
Eck said:
By stock it's usually stock rods, pistons, sleeves etc. Depending on what engine you use, you won't need a thicker HG but I can't see the harm. Yeah, things like the turbo, manifold/downpipe/intercooler etc (basically something like a race tech kit), larger injectors, uprated fuel pump, oil lines and fittings are amongst what's needed!
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oh right thanks. i think i get it now.

Why do people say buy get a b18c engine and boost it if you can turbo the b16?
 
I think its mainly because it gives you more power on the stock internals safely.
 
B18c4 and B16a2 are better for boosting due to there lower Compression Ratio compared to the B16b and B18c6 of highe C/R but this all goes back to what you are looking for out in the engine.

Whether you are just using little boost or chasing big power. That again that touching on forge and Lo comp parts.
 
High c/r and boost go well. You just need the octane to support it.
 
Is it worth the risk, thats one question. Ive got a book somewhere that says the crank in the B16 is good for approx 700hp, so not sure if the rods etc can deal with anything like that. Honda are known for over engineering things, but I guess it comes down to can you afford to change them or not and possibly break something, how you will feel if it does go bang. Remember any chain is only as strong as the weakest link. If I was doing that kind of work and putting that money in, I think I would just get the strengthened parts too. If a jobs worth doing then do it well.
 
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