ITG maxogen airbox


I've just bought one of these kits and I tell you something the car feels totally different from previous set ups I've had, in the 5 month I have had the car I had a j's racing induction kit a stock air box with a ITG pannel filter and a direct cold air feed this kit imo is worth every penny
 
vtec said:
DONT insult me any more dude ive had my ek9 and other b series motored hondas on rolling roads numerous times im sure ive owned and modded more hondas than you over many years :thanks::blabla:
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wow, calm down there tiger, i didnt see any insults, and i will argue with mr spoon all day long, a good vtec cross over should be seamless, there shout be NO dip!! and believe me when i say i have tuned/worked on/seen/dyno'd more hondas and other cars than you...

a dip in the graph is a loss of power, plain and simple. which is a bad thing.
 
Can you guys who say you have no dips in your power curve put up pics of it? It's not that I don't believe you, I've not heard of a VTEC not having a dip before. They come out of the factory with a dip.
Are you all talking about the B16b, or all B-series? (mine is a B16a2)
 
blinx9900 said:
wow, calm down there tiger, i didnt see any insults, and i will argue with mr spoon all day long, a good vtec cross over should be seamless, there shout be NO dip!! and believe me when i say i have tuned/worked on/seen/dyno'd more hondas and other cars than you...

a dip in the graph is a loss of power, plain and simple. which is a bad thing.
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Ive no doubt you have tuned more hondas than me dude ,but you tune cars for a living ,where as im a pipe line welder so i dont dedicate all/most of my cars to tuning cars its SO expensive in the uk and its just my hobbie ,anyway the dip in power i was talking about was on a standard b16b ,not tuned with any aftermarket parts or mapping at all ,but im getting an apexi power fc and commander to sort this out and tune my car
 
benkei said:
Can you guys who say you have no dips in your power curve put up pics of it? It's not that I don't believe you, I've not heard of a VTEC not having a dip before. They come out of the factory with a dip.
Are you all talking about the B16b, or all B-series? (mine is a B16a2)
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I've seen dips only on cars with the shitty V AFC or some kind of chip or mods to the intake/exhuast and no tuning.. All stock hondas shouldn't have dip unless something is changed. Mine is opposite, the power line jumps up from Vtec, no dip, no stall, nothing, just upwards. I also saw a dyno sheet of a b16A and that had no dip either. Like I said, if vtec is kicked in too early for your engine and combinations then there will be a dip in power that can be felt as well as dyno.

vtec: your comment was pretty strong and direct since your not a tuner or mechanic, how were you so sure? I also have a B16B...
What rpm is the Vtec kicking in on your B16B?
 
vtec said:
Ive no doubt you have tuned more hondas than me dude ,but you tune cars for a living ,where as im a pipe line welder so i dont dedicate all/most of my cars to tuning cars its SO expensive in the uk and its just my hobbie ,anyway the dip in power i was talking about was on a standard b16b ,not tuned with any aftermarket parts or mapping at all ,but im getting an apexi power fc and commander to sort this out and tune my car
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im actually not a tuner, i work at a shop, i can tune, but i wouldent consider myself a tuner.

oh, i miss read sorry, if your saying most vtec's have a dip on the vtec crossover when there 100% stock, then yes i have to agree. not all of them have it, but A LOT for some reason do. it can usually be fixed with fuel/ign timing... im in the US so most cars run on 91octane, that could be the reason, since honda maps them for 100 octane from the factory...
 
JDM Honda engines are mapped for higher octane (99 RON +) but the UK doesn't have high actane fuel, so our cars are mapped for 95 RON (although I only used 97 RON and now 99 RON for better engine life, performance and fuel efficiency)
So maybe that would contribute to a dip in power??
 
vtec said:
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I have this air intake on my ek9 and i can tell you now its anything but cheap its a very high quality bit of kit that works very well indeed ,it also got better gains on my car than the mugen air box, both in power and lower intake temperatures and its also cheaper than the mugen as well ,also its carbon fibre the mugen is crappy glass fibre ,the itg maxogen is a great bit of kit
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hey man just a quick one,ive just fitted this kit on my 9 and the top allen key bolt on the mounting bracket touches and taps on the slam panel,is yours the same?
 
It was mate you just have to fix the bracket down(which you've already done) and bend the bracket back a bit by pushing it away from the slam panel a very small ammount
 
Where is the best place to get one of these from? i really wanted a mugen but there nearly £400 delivered!!:(
 
vtec said:
It was mate you just have to fix the bracket down(which you've already done) and bend the bracket back a bit by pushing it away from the slam panel a very small ammount
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i thought about bending the bracket forwards a bit but was concerned about it raising the airbox because i think their is practically no clearance between the box and the hood.
 
vtec said:
tokyo-express.co.uk £330 :nice:
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i just bought mine from duncan at tokyo express and it was £359 with vat and delivery,doesnt really bother me cos thats still cheaper than the mugen and people have said that they out perform the mugen.
 
eby5838 said:
i just bought mine from duncan at tokyo express and it was £359 with vat and delivery,doesnt really bother me cos thats still cheaper than the mugen and people have said that they out perform the mugen.
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Thats alot of money for something i havent seen any proof of the power it makes on a EK9. Have seen a second hand mugen for 300 but just dont know what 2 do? My tuner says id be better of spending the money on a manifold, as i already have a spoon carbon kevlar pipe ITG panel filter and resonators removed. :( confused
 
just to remind everyone that the purpose of upgrading an intake is to freeing up HP by reducing drag. Reducing the amount of energy to pull the air into the combustion chambers is the purpose of an upgraded intake. Thats the very reason why you experience 'better throttle response'. Less Air Drag.

So unless theres a lot of restriction, you wont see any gains.

The only thing that allows your engine to suck in more air, is the cams.

So lets not think 'I can gain 8hp with this and that intake etc etc etc.' complete rubbish!
 
jugbugz said:
just to remind everyone that the purpose of upgrading an intake is to freeing up HP by reducing drag. Reducing the amount of energy to pull the air into the combustion chambers is the purpose of an upgraded intake. Thats the very reason why you experience 'better throttle response'. Less Air Drag.

So unless theres a lot of restriction, you wont see any gains.

The only thing that allows your engine to suck in more air, is the cams.

So lets not think 'I can gain 8hp with this and that intake etc etc etc.' complete rubbish!
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So i cant really see any resriction with the standard intake with my setup as it stands so probs going to get a manifold next.
 
vtecdave said:
So i cant really see any resriction with the standard intake with my setup as it stands so probs going to get a manifold next.
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Yes, its best not to get so hyped on what manufacturers say about hp gains. It may stand on normal engines but ours are making minimum 100hp per litre, so thats ferrari territory. All Type R parts are highly engineered to work in sync, changing 1 part affects everything. ( oh, and they need to advertise or no one will buy it!)

Think about what you going to do with it in the future then plan and layout your mods. But no matter what, Cold air will give you consistant gains. This is what you want. You dont want to loose power when you engine gets hot.

For Stock cam setups, any CAI will do. but the best is to do the CAI stock box mod. Its free!

think about free flowing intakes when you think about cams. :nice:
 
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