DVLA really own your car: Here's how to change it.


You go head to head with DVLA and the police, be prepared to be hassled and possibly pay the price.....

It does look good, and in theory it is right......but i am not sure this will last! He will be taken to court and have the book thrown at him. I wont be rushing to do it anyway :lol:
 
So what does that net you aside from not paying road tax? Immunity from speeding cameras? I can do that by taking my numberplates off, and I'll bet the penalty for that is a lot less than having an unregistered car!
 
Wish this could be done would save me £425 road tax a year! Im thinking he's got beefs with authority, I'll give him 2 days till he's busted.
 
So he can only drive it on private property?

Daft Idea

You go head to head with DVLA and the police, be prepared to be hassled and possibly pay the price.....

It does look good, and in theory it is right......but i am not sure this will last! He will be taken to court and have the book thrown at him. I wont be rushing to do it anyway :lol:

So what does that net you aside from not paying road tax? Immunity from speeding cameras? I can do that by taking my numberplates off, and I'll bet the penalty for that is a lot less than having an unregistered car!

Wish this could be done would save me £425 road tax a year! Im thinking he's got beefs with authority, I'll give him 2 days till he's busted.

Legal versus Lawful! What does that mean? You may ask, are they not one, and the same? If something is lawful, does it not follow that it is also legal? The answer is most definitely NO!
We have been misled in many things, and in particular with regards to things that relate to law. However, the blame should not be directed upon those who have perpetrated the fraud. On the contrary. The blame should be directed against us, against ourselves, for allowing it to happen, and to continue to happen. Just as we should not blame government, politicians, and corporations for the things that they do. They can only do what we allow them to do, and remember silence, and inaction equals tacit consent.

In order to understand the difference in what is legal, and what is lawful we must understand how assumption, and presumption plays a major role in the fraud called "The Legal System". As an example lets take a really basic event like marriage.

As we all know marriage is a "lawful" institution. People have been getting married for centuries. In fact in ancient times all it took for two people to marry was to stand in their village before their piers, and THEIR god (nothing about religion), and announce their intentions, and their vows to each other. Now they are married, and recognized as such under the natural law "Common Law".

Let us now look at the process today. You decide to marry your soul mate. The first thing you must do (planning aside) is apply for a marriage license, which seems pretty straight forward right? Wrong! The need for a license is a presumption, or assumption on your part! This assumption results from the constant feeding of misinformation that you have been subject to throughout your life, and the way that the religious, government administered education systems have indoctrinated you during your growing years.

You may say well I have to get a license it is the law. That is false, and to understand that we must look at the word license. You will need a "Law Dictionary" in order to get an understanding of what the definition of license is. You should try to get the oldest dictionary you possible can, since lawyers "change the meaning of words" over time, in order to institute new statutes in favour / favor of governments, and corporations.

Blacks law dictionary, Bouvier's law dictionary, or Bell's law dictionary are the more prominent and widely used in matters of law, and legal issues. The reason you need a law dictionary is because in matters of the law or the legal system, a different language is used. It is a language created by lawyers, and is meant to be understood only by lawyers.

According to Blacks fifth edition law dictionary LICENCE means "The permission by competent authority to do an act which without such permission, would be illegal". What it is saying is if you wish to do certain acts then you are committing an offence (you are a criminal) if you do not get a license (permission) from competent authority (the government), before you engage in those acts. None of us wish to be criminals or break the law, and so we BLINDLY presume, assume that we must obtain a license.

Let us stop for a moment, and dissect this information. We know that marriage is "lawful" and we know that the government cannot give permission (license / permit) to do anything "unlawful". For example you cannot get a license / permission to beak into cars because that is unlawful right? We must now realize that anything that we can do legally with a license, we can lawfully do without one.

Next we need to take notice of the fact that, if a license is permission. Then it follows that WE must have ASKED for permission. Permission is seldom given unless someone requests it. Who normally asks for permission? Children, ask for permission (search Parens Patriae) you become a ward of the government, a child of the Province. Incompetents ask for permission. Someone incapable of handling their own affairs or who are not in control, ask for permission. Ask yourself who established government, and who has authority over government? WE DO! we just don't take the time to recognize we poses that authority, in fact we have been taught to believe that it is the government that has authority over us. That is why we ask for permission to engage in LAWFUL acts?

Licenses are: a) a form of tax. b) a way of controlling our lives. Everything you can do legally with a permit or license you can do lawfully without a permit or license. You can feed your family (a natural lawful act) without a permit / business license. why? Because it is one of your basic human inalienable rights (the right to property, or as Americans term it the Pursuit of Happiness) the right to work, and enjoy the fruits of your labour /labor.

There are only three basic LAWS we could or should be accountable for
1) Injury to person (covers murder, assault, ****, slander, libel defaming ones name etc. etc)
2) Injury to property (includes physical property, intellectual property, income, loss of revenue etc. etc.)
3) Mischief (fraud) in our contracts verbal or otherwise: (Speaks for itself)

All others (statutes, and by laws) do not apply to us (such as accidentally running a stop sign at 3:00am with no resulting injured party). Statutes are for those in commerce. All government, and government departments are "Corporations" Federal, provincial, municipal, example the corporation of the City of Toronto.

Corporations exist in name only, on paper. You can find the listings of the Corporation of Canada, the Corporation of British Columbia etc. etc. listed on the US Securities, and Exchange Commission (SEC) website. Humans live in geographical areas like the area known as the Province of British Columbia. Alternatively a human cannot exist within the "Corporation of British Columbia" because it exists in name only. When you get a violation ticket it tells you that you were speeding in British Columbia what they do not tell you is that they are referring to the Corporation of British Columbia, and that difference can be, and is detrimental to you. To research this check out Robert-Arthur: Menard's video "The Magnificent Deception"

Summary:

Three things that influence our lives to a greater extent than all others is, Politics, Law, and Banking (the money system). Yet they are three of the most neglected subjects / topics in our education system. How many students graduating today can recite what their basic rights are? How many can give at least two extracts from the Magna Carta how many could explain the meaning of Habeas Corpus how many people reading this page could explain it?

It is not my intent to write a book here, only to provide some alternative avenues of thought. Individual research, and verification, is the order of the day. The status quo is based both on our choices, and our ignorance. And as they say "ignorance is no excuse in the eyes of the law" Taking the time to become informed, and by not being silent is the only way to change the status quo.
 
as far as i can understand "habeas corpus" is a writ that gives you the right to appeal in court over your jail term?
 
That's all fair and well. I do not like paying road tax and such. But if we all stopped paying road tax could you imagine the stait of the roads. They are bad enough as it is. I think I will just keep paying and staying legal for now.
 
only a perentage of your road tax actually goes towards maintaining the roads! the rest is wasted by the government.
 
only a perentage of your road tax actually goes towards maintaining the roads! the rest is wasted by the government.

Still could you imagine the nick of the roads if there was no money to play with.

We get shafted what ever we do anyways.
 
WOO HOO... love this type of thing. i've been trying to spread around the forum a few times before.

another thing that is good fun is try to find on your V5 document where it says you are the onwer of the vehicle... It doesn't you are only the registered keeper that is why the goverment have the right to crush your car as .... well .... its there's you simply have the right to drive it.

the language you refer to is legalise... the stuff lawyers use to confuse us as it is their language and invented to confuse us...

we all have the right to use our own persoanl method of conveyance... as in actual fact the term DRIVER is a legal term...

It is a very sad fact that the schools of today purposely don't teach us about this.. as if they did we would all not be paying tax and they would not have the control over us that they do have..
 
Hummm that's interesting. So by registering a car in your name that means you accept you are just the keeper of said car not the owner.
Dunx
 
Seems to good to be true, and most of the time it usually is!

Still not 100% convinced.
 
TBH i was the same when i first started getting into this sort of thing.

The only way you will truely know is if you research yourself.. when the truth hits you its like being awoken to a whole new perspective..
Its not about fighting authority or having a problem with authority..its a RIGHT we have and will always have and always have had since the magna carta 1215.. its nothing to do with being a nutter and getting away with things scot free.. If anything you actually accept more responsibility !!!!!

here is a good link. having a read over a cup of tea and it will be very confusing at first but little by little it'll start to make sense..

Deregistration of oneself and ones vehicle. - a Freedom of Information request to Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency - WhatDoTheyKnow

Here is a video starting to explain what it is all about... there are 5 in the series.. its an awful lot to take in but once you start to digest it it makes COMPLETE and utter sense..
Its not a conspriracy theory its not me being scared or having a problem with authority its nothing of the sort. its about a TRUE understanding of law and legal..

ITS ALL ABOUT CONTRACT's

you may think it but you are not a PERSON, you have a PERSON.. this is legal fiction.
when you go to court they act upon your person and the only way they are able to do so, is for you to give consent. because a statute is only given the force of law by the consent of the governed.. this will all make sense after these videos..

Please take the time to watch these videos. it will explain ALOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
a few frined of mine have met John harris and he is such a down to earth guy, its people like him that we need more of in this world..

John Harris - It's an illusion Part 1/5 - YouTube
John Harris - It's an illusion Part 2/5 - YouTube
John Harris - It's an illusion Part 3/5 - YouTube
John Harris - It's an illusion Part 4/5 - YouTube
John Harris - It's an illusion Part 5/5 - YouTube
 
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so how do you go about getting your birth certificated destroyed? and what would the implications be? how do you insure a car with no tax etc??? god im going to the library on monday and doing some research! :wow:
 
to simplify it...... you have to de-register yourself a part of the corporation that is the coporation of the united kingdom... lol i make it sound simple but thats basically what you have to do.. i'm sure john harris wrote up an avidavit and sent it to the queen lol... thought he says about that in the video's... i'm sure you will be able to find one on youtube about that somewhere.. maybe even by john harris or another freeman....
but basically you declare yourself a freeman of the land.. you should be able to find info about freeman stuff on the interwebs..

there are companies that are starting to look into dealing in freeman insurance who and when they will be doing this i don't have full info yet.. TPUC.org is a good place to start looking though..

you sound interested mate, which is good as the more you read up on it the more interesting it gets.. glad you are interested though.
 
yea man, going to do some reading up about it next week. really enjoyed those videos! never knew all the capital words on forms were legal jargon i just thought it was to highlight what you had to do! DOH! got a birth certificate out and laughed when i seen the parents down as enformants, couldnt believe it! lol anyone fancy joining a new society! :))
 
Just watched all the videos and it's totally mad but makes total sense.

Starting to feel like I'm in the Matrix! :lol:

It's quite shocking to find out that all these corporations where invented just to make money from us and pinch our stuff from us!

Shame we can't just get fired from this corporation!

Defo going to dig deeper on this. :))
 
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