BC Coilovers


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RoEk9

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Im getting BC coil overs next week.Fully adjustable and 32 way damping! Just wondering does anyone here have them and what are there thoughts?

thanks :nice:
 
wow.

they are far from rubbish ? and in what way are meister r's better ?

i personally feel they are better than all coilovers around the same price, better than most teins until you get to n1 specs etc very good coilovers
 
Kozy said:
They're rubbish.
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Rubbish? Really whats your reason?

kellsled said:
MEISTER R's are better
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There out of my budget!

egshane said:
wow.

they are far from rubbish ? and in what way are meister r's better ?

i personally feel they are better than all coilovers around the same price, better than most teins until you get to n1 specs etc very good coilovers
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Iv heard they are just as good as teins or better aswell! I drove a car which had them and i thought the ride was solid very nice! Im going a head anyway and getting them next week so ill see how i get on!
 
I think they are a lovely coilover. Have mine over a year and they great.. Good rebound but dont bounce the **** out of you. I would reccomend them and would like to know what reason Kozy has for them being rubbish?
 
Daniel_Ek9 said:
I think they are a lovely coilover. Have mine over a year and they great.. Good rebound but dont bounce the **** out of you. I would reccomend them and would like to know what reason Kozy has for them being rubbish?
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Thanks for your opinion man! Ye im going with them anyway! I drove an ek with them before and they felt great! I would like to know why Kozy said there rubbish aswell!
 
i believe he says they're rubbish because when they were tested the different setting on them had no real definition between them and some actually overlap eachother, meaning its pretty pointless having adjustable coilovers if the adjustments arent actually defined. I personnally dont see the need for coilovers unless you plan on tracking the car.
 
There is nothing wrong with them at all....very good in my opinion and give nice ride. Just upgraded to them & they feel well better than my old lowering springs/shocks.
 
Why are they bad? Bad damper valving. If you like your car to either bounce all over the road on the stiff setting, or wallow like a boat on the soft setting, with not a great deal in between, they these will be great.

Personally, I think they are crap. But don't listen to me, spend your money on whatever you want to. :nice:
 
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I run bc's on my ek9 and can't fault them. I don't really play about wiu the settings, go them to a level I thought was good for b roads and not adjusted them since.
After being in my mates ek with meister's I didn't rate them at all plus the bc's were a good deal cheaper.
 
I had BC's on my S14a and they felt awsome!! Maybe because there a diff model either way I liked them!!
 
i run bc's on my eg.
i prefer them to meister r's as they are stiffer
its stiff handles great and its not super hard or anything
 
elchunk said:
i believe he says they're rubbish because when they were tested the different setting on them had no real definition between them and some actually overlap eachother, meaning its pretty pointless having adjustable coilovers if the adjustments arent actually defined. I personnally dont see the need for coilovers unless you plan on tracking the car.
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I track my car with standard suspension, and it goes round really well, the standard is a great comprise between hard driving and comfort, the car has just enough roll without feeling wallowy, plus its tuned and set up by HONDA, VIVA LA STANDARD!
 
I had some BC racing coilovers, fitted them and took them back off for standard within a week.

Just didn't rate them, they were 8kg Front and 5kg Rear, so not to firm. Found the damping awful on them regardless of what they were set to, and couldn't drive my usual B-roads at a spirited level because of them, find Standard suspension superior in every way for daily driving / b-road blasting. Obviously never tested them on track and didn't really want to either.

Luckily i sort of loaned them off my mate so didn't have to commit to the purchase, more of a try before you buy.
 
Hmmm If kozy and ashy C can do autocross and sprints and track their car's without coilovers i think that says alot about the need for coilovers and the fact that the market place at the moment almost makes out if you don't have coilovers you can't have good handling suspension...
I am learning alot about suspension at the moment and from what i can gather a good spring and dmaper setup by far out weighs budget coilovers..

but if you want them mate go ahead and buy them , i hope they will give you what you want.. :))
 
I have BC-Racing coilovers on my car now , I got them at a good price €600 new nearly 2yrs ago so it was hard not to turn them down. FR 10kg RR 6kg , I agree the damping range isnt brilliant when compared to other maybe more expensive coilovers , but on a ''budget'' they are a good choice.

After 2yrs , 14ish thousand kms , the rubber top mounts are nearly gone and the dampers feel soft.

Il be getting some Koni shocks , ground control height adjustable sleeves and pick my own springs to match next time .. :nice:
 
^ I really appreciate you saying that mate as thats the only realistic view i have seen on them. as only other reviews start with..

"just fitted my bc coilovers and they are great " lol shows they may be good to start with but down the line its a costly choice to go with budget coilies..

the feels coilovers i had on my EG6 were about 7 years old and they were still absolutely brilliant after nearly 30,000KM.
there is alot of truth behind the saying
" you get what you pay for "
 
Right, I am going to add some comment but only on an information level and something for everyone to think about.

A coilovers is just a damper with an adjustable springs perch (or spring perch with a lower bracket if you are using a dual perch design) in one unit.
So in essence, coilover is just a springs and a damper... nothing special about it.

There is nothing that magically make a coilovers better performing than an OEM Springs / Dampers.
And there is nothing stopping a set of coilovers from providing the same comfort as the OEM Springs / Dampers Setup.

So why people use coilovers? Because it give the ability for the driver to adjust the car to the way they want.
This give the driver more control on what he want the cars to do, and therefore provide more confidence and should be better able to enjoy the car.

Alot of time, coilovers are design for "Racing" use, and this mean the damper often is over valved for road use.
This actually make the car handle "worst" on real life road surfaces filled with pot holes and bumps as the damper actually hold the wheel in the air after hitting a bumps causing the car to lose traction.

But depending on the specification and the adjustments, Coilovers can be just as comfortable and compliant over uneven road surfaces as the standard OEM suspensions.

Same reason that a improperly specified coilovers and bad adjustments can make the coilovers horrible to drive on and handle worst than the OEM suspension.

This is especially true with more expensive coilovers such as 2-way and 3-way system.
The more adjustments is available, the more technical knowledge you need to adjust them.
Give a bunch of monkeys a set of £10,000 Moton Suspension and I bet you they can make the car perform worst than the OEM suspension.
Give that same car to an expert race engineers and watch driving dog turn to driving god.

So in short, I don't think it is right to say Coilovers are bad and useless.
But at the same time, I don't think that OEM Suspension are rubbish (Especially Honda as they spend alot of time and money on the double wishbone design).

Different people have different opinion, you have to find a setup that you like and are comfortable with.
The setup must provide you with confidence when you push the car closer to its limit, and if the suspension for you is 4 stick of wood... then that is the best suspension for you no matter what anyone else say.

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Everything MeisterR says is spot on really, it's very hard to make the EK9 handle better than stock, but very very easy to make it worse. Adding adjustabilty into the matter just adds another variable with which you can screw things up.

Topher-EK4 said:
Hmmm If kozy and ashy C can do autocross and sprints and track their car's without coilovers i think that says alot about the need for coilovers and the fact that the market place at the moment almost makes out if you don't have coilovers you can't have good handling suspension...
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Well, I have long advocated the simple spring/damper setup over budget coilovers as they are usually set and forget, and will generally be a good but moderate upgrade from standard and more than enough for most peoples uses (obviously depending on what you buy!). Also, as you effectively get less for your money, you could loosely translate it into saying the stuff you do get should be of a higher quality.

While I still maintain this POV, I think I am getting to the point now where I could really benefit from having a proper adjustable coilover setup for competion purposes. A big step up in stiffness is required with the levels of grip I can build now, and proper 2 or 3 way adjustable dampers would really help tweak out the nuances in the cars behaviour. It's taken a while for me to reach this point of actually needing this sort of thing though!

Plus, even if I had a pukka set of £3k KWs, I'd still have a set of OEM EK9 suspension for road use.
 
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