B20Z, will it take much abuse?
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I would think the hassle of K20 is down to all the parts that have to be bought to actually physically fit the lump and get it running.. and thats before it is tuned in anyway. Mounts, shafts, Harness, electric ps etc etc i think my mate priced it all up at something like around 1500 euro for the fitting kit.. then buy the K20 set up.
I guess it does cost a few quid for the B18c liners, Then it a linerd 2ltr but it is all just bolt back together... thats my take on it .. maybe im wrong
I guess it does cost a few quid for the B18c liners, Then it a linerd 2ltr but it is all just bolt back together... thats my take on it .. maybe im wrong
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asking other people what to do sometimes is not the best idea because while some people pick apples other choose oranges and next thing you know is 10 pages thread with nothing but b.s.
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Really? I thought K-swaps were a £6k+ conversion, where sleeving a block is what, sub £1k plus a set of pistons/headgasket?
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The fact the guy actually has a B18CR already..
@KC500 , are you the same member on dtdirl ?
I thought you were from the US haha... this might change things slightly because k20's go for very cheap here .... but depends what you have to spend really..
ps; cant seem to reply to your pm.
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...if you have a b18C to start with.
Yep, thats me... I dont know whats wrong with messages?
The b18 would hardly cost near what a k20 conversion would would it
oscarsayco
I wouldnt agree with you on that mate, i think its the best way to get a broad perspective on a subject, rather than running with what your mate has or whats the trend in your area.. or what guys are brain washed into or what a certain "click" wants you to spend your money..
Im getting info, and peoples experiences from The UK, States, Ireland etc etc, so to me its exactly what the doctor orderd,
So as long as guys dont getting personally insulted by someone saying A is better than B its all good really.
Im getting great info from everyone and a bit more knowledge so im well happy. Great Forum
The b18 would hardly cost near what a k20 conversion would would it
oscarsayco
I wouldnt agree with you on that mate, i think its the best way to get a broad perspective on a subject, rather than running with what your mate has or whats the trend in your area.. or what guys are brain washed into or what a certain "click" wants you to spend your money..
Im getting info, and peoples experiences from The UK, States, Ireland etc etc, so to me its exactly what the doctor orderd,
So as long as guys dont getting personally insulted by someone saying A is better than B its all good really.
Im getting great info from everyone and a bit more knowledge so im well happy. Great Forum
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oscarsayco
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Yep, thats me... I dont know whats wrong with messages?
The b18 would hardly cost near what a k20 conversion would would it
oscarsayco
I wouldnt agree with you on that mate, i think its the best way to get a broad perspective on a subject, rather than running with what your mate has or whats the trend in your area.. or what guys are brain washed into or what a certain "click" wants you to spend your money..
Im getting info, and peoples experiences from The UK, States, Ireland etc etc, so to me its exactly what the doctor orderd,
So as long as guys dont getting personally insulted by someone saying A is better than B its all good really.
Im getting great info from everyone and a bit more knowledge so im well happy. Great Forum
it's all good men just my two cents
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Be careful, brainwashing and trends are rife on forums just as they are in local circles...
It's clique, by the way.
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Problem on my end I think .
It depends on how far you want to go and your budget .
Like you say its â¬1500 for the k swap parts , you will spend that amount on engine machining block / head plus liner fitting..
Theres pro's and con's to everything ..
It is a track car after all and especially on mondello you can only have so much bhp to the front wheels before its a waste and maybe a negative.!
Be careful, brainwashing and trends are rife on forums just as they are in local circles...
It's clique, by the way.
Yea im all too well aware of it all, But id hope on a forum like this thats seems to have a world wide user base compared to some other forums that are more domestic based... that at least it should eliminate a lot of the above..
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K-swap will get you a good after markter header (if you purchase the right one
), programmable ECU with tune, new shafts, new mounts etc. Buy all those parts + sleeve it + the costs of a B18C (that you would otherwise get in return if you would sell it for a K20 and the difference is not thát big anymore 
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Totally agree with you there Steven, however few snags im hitting with my build... reliability wise, and would probably of gone high comp, K20 route ..
My problem is finding a good quality head gasket which will last long enough.. Been through 3 so far, OEM, cometic 'phuzion' (worlds most expensive hg and lasting a mere 5 mins), and power enterprise which lasted longest (few months) - bare in mind it isnt a daily driver, just the odd weekend here or there..
I was even thinking of camming it, but could it really take the added compression without sacrificing reliability even further
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I was even thinking of camming it, but could it really take the added compression without sacrificing reliability even further
Nah, you don't need compression for cams...
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Totally agree with you there Steven, however few snags im hitting with my build... reliability wise, and would probably of gone high comp, K20 route ..
My problem is finding a good quality head gasket which will last long enough.. Been through 3 so far, OEM, cometic 'phuzion' (worlds most expensive hg and lasting a mere 5 mins), and power enterprise which lasted longest (few months) - bare in mind it isnt a daily driver, just the odd weekend here or there..
I was even thinking of camming it, but could it really take the added compression without sacrificing reliability even further
...would a harmonic balancer help this head gasket out? I can physically feel a smoother running engine with it on...just dont know if it helps this out...just a thought.
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Surely the extra weight of a guy in passenger seat playing a Harmonica would be disadvantage and distracting
I had a b20 and it just had intake and I never really got on it but one day I was just getting on the motor way and the #3 connecting rod went out the side of the block and the piston decided the kiss the head so my experience with b20's isn't good. save the money and get the the type r. you will thank yourself later.
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ive a fully built b20, i used RSmachining Rep ITR cast pistons.
they got great reviews in the states so i thought id try them.
i reckon when my cams (stage2head) are dialled in she'll hit 250bhp
the power delivery is unlike any k20 ive been in.
pure low end torque and brut power, im still awaiting to raise the rev limit
and dial in the cams. i opted for a crank girdle over a block gaurd for the bottom end too.
id be wary about a b20 on track, a drag car no problem as its not under serious load for prolonged periods.
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