used spoon calipers
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RyanDOHC
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I would say thats a very good price considering the condition.If i knew where they were i would snap them up lol.U can always get them freshnd up with a touch of paint or a good clean but a great part ,not the best at the end of the day ur paying for the name but a nice part all the same 
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Pm a link to it
smithginds
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so far i love mine
They are light, they work with oem pads and rotors if you want Awesome
i've had mine for about 8years and still running strong.
I don't know if you can use touch up paint though, they are anodized blue, so regular touch up paint might not work?
They are light, they work with oem pads and rotors if you want
Awesomei've had mine for about 8years and still running strong.
I don't know if you can use touch up paint though, they are anodized blue, so regular touch up paint might not work?
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I am not in doubt that these are very good calipers. I just can't help but wondering if they're really worth the money. I mean, do these perform só much better that they're easily worth second hand 75% or so over a brand new set of Wilwoods? I remember a thread here about trying to get these calipers directly from the Nissin factory without the Spoon brand on it and they were not even half the price Spoon wants for it. Anyone know the thread I'm talking about?
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Depends what is more important to you when you are upgrading.
Do you want to fly through the windscreen at the slightest touch of the pedal, or retain the factory power and balance but with a better pedal feel and improved cooling?
Having learned what I have learnt recently about brakes, these Spoons make more sense than they did previously. It's the same with most of Spoons parts, there are plenty of more powerful, aggressive options out there for sure, and usually for far less money.
Are those parts optimized for the car? Not very often. Do they have OEM reliability? Unlikely.
Not knocking the Wilwoods at all, they are good calipers at a good price.
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So you are suggesting now that for a substantially lower price you cannot find calipers with the same reliability, balance, pedal feel, improved cooling for a Type R? And do you think there are no calipers that offer almost the same for way less money?
I am not gonna say that I have experience with both cause I don't. But with these Spoon calipers (and a lot of other Spoon products) I have the feeling that you pay 50% extra for a 10% increase in the relevant variables. I would not be surprised at all too if the calipers only cost maybe 10% more to make and research than other performance calipers but cost 50% extra or more for consumers. It's the way bussiness works actually
I am not gonna say that I have experience with both cause I don't. But with these Spoon calipers (and a lot of other Spoon products) I have the feeling that you pay 50% extra for a 10% increase in the relevant variables. I would not be surprised at all too if the calipers only cost maybe 10% more to make and research than other performance calipers but cost 50% extra or more for consumers. It's the way bussiness works actually
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Brakes are a fine balancing act. Unlike suspension and engine tuning, there are limits, and you can overstep them. When you do, they are a lot harder to correct. A mismatched engine build can be for the most part sorted with a good tune, a mismatched set of coilovers corrected with damper adjustments. Brakes are not so easy. They affect handling as much as they depend on it. They can make or break a car and like many other aspects of tuning, a well engineered, balanced car with a few choice modifications will usually be faster than one with large amount of money thrown at a long list of ill matched parts.
Spoon works to this philosophy. Yes, nothing is increased a huge amount, especially for the money, but everything is balanced and designed to work specifically on the car it is intended for. Modifying like this makes the car easier to drive, and you can drive a car faster if it is easier to drive.
Take my suspension again. Yes, you can spend much less and get adjustable whizzbits, anodized nubbins and spring rates so stiff you need a skeleton made of adamantium to drive the thing. Get it on a smooth track and it might be awesome, but I can say with 100% certainty that down the average UK B road, you won't see which way my car went.
The same applies with brakes. Not only are these Spoons bolt on and compatibile with the standard discs, but they are matched with the MC and booster to provide a factory feel. With a matched pressure/torque ratio, they'll work happily with the ABS. They'll retain the stock F/R balance, which keeps stopping distances to a minimum and means the suspension geometry will stay in it's designed range, which keeps the handling sweet.
I honestly think that without spending mega money, you will rarely find a brake setup that is genuinely better in all aspects than the Spoons.
A few things spring to mind:
You might get lighter, but they'll flex more.
You might get better fade resistance, but they'll be heavier.
You might get more power, but they'll upset the balance.
It really does depend on how much you value different aspects! Complete minefield TBH!
I've started waffling again. Feel free to tell me to shut up!
Brakes are a fine balancing act. Unlike suspension and engine tuning, there are limits, and you can overstep them. When you do, they are a lot harder to correct. A mismatched engine build can be for the most part sorted with a good tune, a mismatched set of coilovers corrected with damper adjustments. Brakes are not so easy. They affect handling as much as they depend on it. They can make or break a car and like many other aspects of tuning, a well engineered, balanced car with a few choice modifications will usually be faster than one with large amount of money thrown at a long list of ill matched parts.
Spoon works to this philosophy. Yes, nothing is increased a huge amount, especially for the money, but everything is balanced and designed to work specifically on the car it is intended for. Modifying like this makes the car easier to drive, and you can drive a car faster if it is easier to drive.
Take my suspension again. Yes, you can spend much less and get adjustable whizzbits, anodized nubbins and spring rates so stiff you need a skeleton made of adamantium to drive the thing. Get it on a smooth track and it might be awesome, but I can say with 100% certainty that down the average UK B road, you won't see which way my car went.
The same applies with brakes. Not only are these Spoons bolt on and compatibile with the standard discs, but they are matched with the MC and booster to provide a factory feel. With a matched pressure/torque ratio, they'll work happily with the ABS. They'll retain the stock F/R balance, which keeps stopping distances to a minimum and means the suspension geometry will stay in it's designed range, which keeps the handling sweet.
I honestly think that without spending mega money, you will rarely find a brake setup that is genuinely better in all aspects than the Spoons.
A few things spring to mind:
You might get lighter, but they'll flex more.
You might get better fade resistance, but they'll be heavier.
You might get more power, but they'll upset the balance.
It really does depend on how much you value different aspects! Complete minefield TBH!
I've started waffling again. Feel free to tell me to shut up!
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So wish I could compare the two and feel for myself what you get extra for the money.
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JT - Some people, like myself, like the idea that this company has committed their entire career to HONDA tuning. That is a very nice thought. A lot of the research and products these guys do/release, is later copied/mimicked by other companies around the world.
Morally, I like to support these types of companies when possible...
They probably never claim to be the best 'value for money' brand. This is not the point.
The point is, that SPOON brakes were made specifically for the Honda EK/DC, and the brand has a very, very, very strong reputation for making quality parts time and time again..
Yes you pay more, but for some people, it is an easier choice than for others.
I think the SPOONs are pretty close to a real 'factory upgrade', made by Nissin in Japan, and spec'd by a company who has a deep history and strong relationship with Honda.
When it comes to 'value for money', I think most people will agree that stock calipers are enough, with good rotors and good pads, good fresh fluid, even for track work.
I am slapping on my Spoons next week!
Morally, I like to support these types of companies when possible...
They probably never claim to be the best 'value for money' brand. This is not the point.
The point is, that SPOON brakes were made specifically for the Honda EK/DC, and the brand has a very, very, very strong reputation for making quality parts time and time again..
Yes you pay more, but for some people, it is an easier choice than for others.
I think the SPOONs are pretty close to a real 'factory upgrade', made by Nissin in Japan, and spec'd by a company who has a deep history and strong relationship with Honda.
When it comes to 'value for money', I think most people will agree that stock calipers are enough, with good rotors and good pads, good fresh fluid, even for track work.
I am slapping on my Spoons next week!