turboing my type rx!!


hey absolutlysideways did you see this post? it was on the second page but i think you missed it from all the argueing:

blinx9900 said:
.50 is MUCH too small, im assuming thats the a/r ratio? if so you need a least .63 also if you can afford it get a ball bearing turbo, it makes a HUGE difference!!! i have one and i love it!! how much power are you expecting to make? and what compression ratio are you going to go with? also are you going to keep the stock sleeves? are you gonna keep it a 1.6? becuase its a lot cheaper to build it as a 1.8 since NOBODY makes rods for b16b and custom cost $8-900, but eagle sells a 1.8 crank with forged rods for $550 which is much cheaper than custom rods AND you get a 1.8
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also i have some opinions on turbochargint the b18, if your referring to the b18a or b18b keep in mind those are non vtec engines that redline at about 7000rpm which is no fun when turbocharged, you can rev them higher but the problem is they dont have a crank girdle or oil squirters AND the lack of vtec seriously limits the top end power even if you could rev it higher. i would suggest you do what i mentioned above :nice: however if you meant b18c then disregard what i just said :)

also dont forget to get a larger aftermarket radiator and upgraded radiator hoses as the stock hoses cant handle the heat.
 
hey blinx,

yeh i missed that post through all the hating lol...i am going for the dc2 engine mate (i think its the b18c?),engine will be getting a Full rebuild with everything needed,new sleeves,rods,pistons,bearings etc etc etc ,and the turbo in the first post was just one i was looking at(not the one im going to buy),im looking for say 300whp mate,can you suggest any kits? :) ballbearing sounds great!

my aim is to do this once and get it right so going for the full rebuild even though it will cost me £££££:nerv:
 
vtec said:
Look if absolutelysideways wants to turbo his ek9 thats fine ! its his car and his choice at the end of the day if it goes tits up he still has the b16b to put back in to go back to N/A cos he's already said that he's turbo'ing a b18 motor ,and loads of japanese tuners have succesfully turbo'ed ek9s ,top fuel's ek9 350 bhp ,hks ek9 350 bhp,cruise's ek9 650 bhp, to name a few ,im saying all this and im die hard N/A honda ,but i believe that everyone should be individual and do as they please with there own cars :nice:
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u mention all Tuning companies. These people have the funds to experiment and get it right they have the funds. But what about the common man he does not have money popping out of every cavity in his body. Turboing is expensive.

If u have the funds fine blow up your TYPE-R engine then get a new one its just a shame that one of the greatest automotive creations ever is destroyed and in the junk
 
jewel-everyone know when tuning that an engine could blow,its just down to bad tuning....do you really think that after paying for a b18c engine put in my ek9,rebuilding the engine fully and turbocharging...do you really think ill bring it to a tuner that doesnt know what hes doing?!i dont think so mate,i know you dont have to change internals but i am doing so for safety reasons so i can run More boost!!!
 
jewel said:
u mention all Tuning companies. These people have the funds to experiment and get it right they have the funds. But what about the common man he does not have money popping out of every cavity in his body. Turboing is expensive.

If u have the funds fine blow up your TYPE-R engine then get a new one its just a shame that one of the greatest automotive creations ever is destroyed and in the junk
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agree with you to a point there,sure,tuning companies have cash to experiment but thats why im replacing 99% of the b18c with upgraded parts...

also for the less educated a n/a engine can also be blown due to bad tuning

you seem very sure i will blow up the b18 type r engine but you have no idea of the work thats gonna go into this:nice:

instead you are speaking like as if your some honda authority when in fact you seem to be a common narrow minded n/a nobody....please stop spamming the post,if you aint got anything good to say,dont bother
 
absolutlysideways said:
agree with you to a point there,sure,tuning companies have cash to experiment but thats why im replacing 99% of the b18c with upgraded parts...

also for the less educated a n/a engine can also be blown due to bad tuning

you seem very sure i will blow up the b18 type r engine but you have no idea of the work thats gonna go into this:nice:

instead you are speaking like as if your some honda authority when in fact you seem to be a common narrow minded n/a nobody....please stop spamming the post,if you aint got anything good to say,dont bother
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Well its quite established on here that blinx is a good tuner as well but he still blew his engine. I will ignore your insults such as when u said i am uneducated and that I am narrow minded I hope blinx takes note of this. I dont understand why i cant say u should not turbocharge your car and not get ripped into.

Hey man just enjoy your EK9 for what it is a finely tuned and high potential N/A engine

None of the headaches of a turbocharged engine I should know I had 2 (glanza V)
 
i didnt mean you were uneducated man,i was just posting it for other members that may not know...because everytime turbo is mentioned on this forum everyone jumps in with''blow the engine''....just wanted to point out that a n/a can be blown also with bad tuning...

also blinx used stock internals first of all----Im fully forging:nice:

also didnt he hit like 11k rpm with a bad downshift into 1st gear???i dont think ill have a major problem with my project...

as for headaches of a turbocharged engine...i know turbo engines well mate,i had a 1999 reg glanza v that i modded from 133bhp -> 198bhp....also had my 1998 st205 gt4 which was 255bhp stock to 320bhp:nice: so i know the story with turbo charged cars:D
 
No blinx blew it because of bad tuning he said so himself.

Any way forget it just do what makes u happy.

I just want Blinx to put back the cautions its only fair
 
bad tuning and Stock internals were the cause of that fried engine...
im uprating everything and the tuner has tuned turbocharged n/a with great results so its looking good:nice:

as for the cautions...i dont care as some of them posts mean nothing to me,just a bunch of crying n/a diehards(i bet if they were offerend a 300whp b18c for their ek9 they wouldnt refuse:clap:)
 
absolutlysideways said:
hey blinx,

yeh i missed that post through all the hating lol...i am going for the dc2 engine mate (i think its the b18c?),engine will be getting a Full rebuild with everything needed,new sleeves,rods,pistons,bearings etc etc etc ,and the turbo in the first post was just one i was looking at(not the one im going to buy),im looking for say 300whp mate,can you suggest any kits? :) ballbearing sounds great!

my aim is to do this once and get it right so going for the full rebuild even though it will cost me £££££:nerv:
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if your going to rebuild it, it would be cheaper to start off with a GSR b18c shortblock (non type r) and use your CTR cylinder head. but if you do it the other way its still good cause then you have 2 engines so you can always sell 1 if you need the money.

im not a big fan of turbo kits, i prefer to piece together my own parts, i also prefer to use a cast manifold over a tube as the cast last A LOT longer on a street car. this is what i would use:

-turbo GT3071R with V-band option its good for about 450whp
-revhard NON-ac cast manifold
-Tial 38mm wastegate
-bov of your choice
-intercooler of your choice
-v-band 3" downpipe
-750cc injectors
-your choice of ems

now if you want to keep ac, then you can do this:
-gt3071r turbo 4-bolt
-neukin exhuast manifold, dump tube, and downpipe for 4-bolt turbo: http://www.turbogoods.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=8
-tial 44 or 38 wastegate

if you really want to get a kit, i think you would most enjoy the full race ac stage 2 gt kit:
http://www.full-race.com/catalog/pr...=1284&osCsid=bf0d962cfe39076235e04e8f0b8d4e73
 
jewel said:
No blinx blew it because of bad tuning he said so himself.

Any way forget it just do what makes u happy.

I just want Blinx to put back the cautions its only fair
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post a caution with techincal information and i wont delete it. all i ask for is technical information, why is that so hard? just prove it and i'll leave it.

tuning was a major reason it blew up but i actually did hit 16,000 rpm on that downshift :wow::lol::angry: so i could have damaged a piston ring and i had too much ignition timing, and too much boost, and stock internals, cylinder #3 is the one that always blows up even on NA cars, and thats the one i melted.

look at this, na cars blow up too:
http://www.ek9.org/forum/engine/1053-getting-tuned-b16-partii-202-bhp-dead-engine.html

theone/jewel, if you look back at threads ive often disagreed with jugbugs on exhuast/intake topics but he always posted technical info, it was always a technical debate and i never deleted any of his posts. anybody should be able to back up there opinion, if they cant its just based on emotion, if we want an opinion based on emtion we could just ask our mums right:)
 
the one said:
:blabla::blabla::blabla:jUST FORGET ABOUT THE WHOLE THING JUST DROP IT
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amen :nice:

absolutlysideways if your going to sleeve it you should bore it to 84mm, then if you use a b18c crank you will have a 2.0 :) thats a very popular turbo engine set up over here, my friend had that exact set up with the GT3076R and he made 500whp and ran 10.xx in 1/4mile!!
 
blinx9900 said:
amen :nice:

absolutlysideways if your going to sleeve it you should bore it to 84mm, then if you use a b18c crank you will have a 2.0 :) thats a very popular turbo engine set up over here, my friend had that exact set up with the GT3076R and he made 500whp and ran 10.xx in 1/4mile!!
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Nice setup! what should be the rev limit for this setup? 8400 rpm max? :nerv:
 
rvm said:
Nice setup! what should be the rev limit for this setup? 8400 rpm max? :nerv:
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some people like to rev them very high, but i think as you said 8400 should be the heighest for longevity.
 
vtec said:
You should get into the 12's easy with a turboed b18 lump i know a lad who is running a jackson racing supercharger with standard boost on a civic jordan with a 30 shot of nos and teg type r head on his b16 bottom end and he just got a 13.09 1/4 mile at york (uk) at the weekend and he plans a forged bottom end and more boost and 75 shot of nos next time
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how much power is your friend putting out when he done the 13.09 1/4

Also was he using street tyres? Im gessing it was dry
 
why not go for the k20 swap it cost 6000 for the whole thing done including the engine and runs almost 13 dead stock . or do you just want to turbo it cause you like the turbo feeling ?
 
adee-ek4 said:
why not go for the k20 swap it cost 6000 for the whole thing done including the engine and runs almost 13 dead stock . or do you just want to turbo it cause you like the turbo feeling ?
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I hope you mean £6000. While I'm sure you could get a K20 for $6000.00USD installed, by no means are you getting the most out of it.

Chances are, at that price, it's not a K20A2 from a CTR/ITR. I won't go into the breakdown of what it costs, but 10-12k USD is a safe bet.

and almost 13 dead stock? I'd die laughing at the guy who would run only a mid 13... :p unless he happened to live 5000ft above sea level

YouTube - Top Setup 92 Civic EG K20 Engine Swap
 
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