heel and toe


i practice in my work van with massive clumpy boots on.

then i get in the 9' with trainers & its easy.

but i'm a rally driver tyrone...
 
practice and practice is the key to do it perfect
i remember when trying heel and toe on my ek3 i installed aftermarket pedals they helped a lot !!
anyway its easy but needs attension when doing on public street!!
 
The most annoying thing about getting it to a new car is learning the correct amount of revs at whatever speed to rev match.

I can do it in any car I jump into and be godly after about a 15 min spirited drive.
 
I LOVE heal to toe now i do it everywhere i can. I found it hard at first to find the right amount of throttle to match the revs. Once you got it down it feels so nice to bang it through the gears with no lurch.

A couple of my mates who arnt realy into cars noticed how smooth the downshifts where and couldnt belive you could ''heal to toe'' to sory out the lurch.

Saying that when i first heard about it i was like WFT ?

So easy now all it takes is practice. I find it easiest in my big fat DC's or my work shoes that have a 1/2 inch heal. My trainers i find the worst.
 
hey dunnie
i just passed my racing liscence test. we had to learn the heel and toe and i can say i know it well now.
Its a good technique while downshifting. as u normal drive and downshift, u will notice a jurk as u go from 6 -5 , to erase that - u use the heel and toe. if u dont use this , could lead to a sliding car in a second, loss of power on while exiting the corner.
Watch videos on youtube. heel and toe, loads on there.
If u have a manual daily driven car, it would be the best to practice this, everywhere u go. keep practicing and it gets pissing off, but dont give up. ull finally get it.
I had to use it on the Subaru WRX STi for the test.worked wonders.
Practice and practice - thts all u need - its not at all difficult.

SD -
 
Anyone notice it's hard to brake soft when using H&T technique? Might be something to do with the 282's I'm running but unless I'm really going for it on a tight section it's no good, duess I need some practise. Sounds awesome though, the B16 is one of the best sounding motors ever made.
 
Yes I find you need to be applying a reasonable pressure to the brake in order for it to be effective, the reason being that when swinging your heel round for the blip, you loose the pivot point that your heel was providing while on the floor. Trying to regulate the pressure effectively with a free floating limb subject to braking G-forces is what makes this difficult. When hammering hard on the brake, you regain the pivot point to some extent, albeit on the brake pedal and not the floor, this is why it is easier when driving harder.

I have now resigned 'proper' HT for balls out blats and trackwork, however an adopted technique of rocking my foot left and right whilst placed in between the pedals (works best with wide skate style trainers) works much better in day to day driving as you maintain the pivot point on your heel and so can effectively still regulate the pressure between the two pedals.

HTH
 
Kozy said:
Yes I find you need to be applying a reasonable pressure to the brake in order for it to be effective, the reason being that when swinging your heel round for the blip, you loose the pivot point that your heel was providing while on the floor. Trying to regulate the pressure effectively with a free floating limb subject to braking G-forces is what makes this difficult. When hammering hard on the brake, you regain the pivot point to some extent, albeit on the brake pedal and not the floor, this is why it is easier when driving harder.

I have now resigned 'proper' HT for balls out blats and trackwork, however an adopted technique of rocking my foot left and right whilst placed in between the pedals (works best with wide skate style trainers) works much better in day to day driving as you maintain the pivot point on your heel and so can effectively still regulate the pressure between the two pedals.

HTH
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x2 This is exactly what I do.
 
this is a pretty easy technique once you do it enough. also, you dont need the heel to blip the throttle. just a little pointer to make it even easier
 
I had my first ever Heel & Toe attepmt today.....
it's gonna take some practice as apparently, my co-ordination is appalling, and being of the male species my ability to multi-task is also somewhat limited......(good job there was no oncoming traffic!!)

Practice makes perfect tho!!!
 
lol once you get the hang of it its easy and you`ll be able to do it to almost everything. I mean i was heel and toe'ing a high roof diesel transit a while back lol.
 
i have acctually tought people to heel an tow, the only reason to do it is to keep the car balanced on down change into corners. So you dont shift all the weight to the front of the car allowing the rear end to do what it wants lol.
 
It's tricky but when you master it its fun as hell. I've been getting my practice on a nissan fronter my ppl own. :p
 
Chandlerek4 said:
i have acctually tought people to heel an tow, the only reason to do it is to keep the car balanced on down change into corners. So you dont shift all the weight to the front of the car allowing the rear end to do what it wants lol.
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Not the ONLY reason

If you're good enough at it, makes downshifts much faster and smoother, so sets you up for corners faster

The smoothness is alot easier on your drivetrain too, the matching of the revs is alot easier on the clutch
 
stevenEK9 said:
Not the ONLY reason

If you're good enough at it, makes downshifts much faster and smoother, so sets you up for corners faster

The smoothness is alot easier on your drivetrain too, the matching of the revs is alot easier on the clutch
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Also it prevents your wheels from locking up on rainy or icy conditions.
 
to be fair your wouldnt race on icy conditions in the first place. Heel and toe is purely to match revs to cars speed while braking to keep the car more stable alowing you to be smoother, wether your blipping throttle or not the down is not quicker and doesnt help you set up for a corner any quicker, heel and toe makes the car more stable and balanced. In any race Smoother=Faster
 
lol im not gonna keep this on because this is fast becoming another silly thread.. but you dont heel and toe a rally car (group a anyway) as they use sequential boxes, usually a paddle shift ie: no clutch
 
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