EK9 dash into my ickle EG... project thing


RachelGee

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Lo all, not really been around here properly in a good long while, had alot of personal stuff to sort but now throwning myself back into 'it' :)

So Ahh the humble EG black dash, with VTi dials, all bulbs changed to orange, jdm heater controls, coin pocket, it is nice but I want some thing different, so I pondered an ITR dash, but I fancied something different, something more in keeping with the… ‘feel’ of Tamama, so an EK9 dash sprang to mind. I mean EK9 engine and gbox, EK9 alloys, EK9 floor mats, might as well get the dials and dash eh? One ickle problem, after a good few weeks searching the interweb I couldn’t find anyone on the big Honda forums, or even on Google searches who had fitted an ek dash into an eg civic, or even tried – not even tried and failed!



So 18months later after a lot of searching for a facelift ek9 dash (well if ya good do it, get the ‘best’ one :p ) and a nice trip up to see Johnny at tegiwa imports in stone to pick up my new dash!


I got home and right away split the dash into bits. Previous experience of removing an ek dash in a local scrap yard had taught me that the ek dash bolts in sections to a main metal frame work. So the 1st place to start would be to remove the main sections of plastic and see if they would fit.



Another small problem, ek dash looms wont plug into eg fuse boxes. Now this time last year some may (99% wont) remember I was after ek wire diagrams and was kindly supplied with some, so I made a start the idea of using an EG dash loom (so it would plug in) and swapping over the ek dash plugs onto it. Took me the best part of 2 wks at work (yeah my old job I was being made redundant and no one cared anyway lol) to figure it all out using a mix of uk and usa wire diagrams but I managed to splice EK dial/cluster plugs onto a spare eg dash loom I had. Only I didn’t have an ek dash, or even dials/cluster to use to test them so the whole project got put on hold while other things in my life took priority.

So now I had an EK dash and cluster I could try my loom!



It didn’t really work…. Half the lights on the dash worked, some didn’t work at all, and some where just wrong full stop! So back to the drawing board 

After much thought I had a new idea, so I set to it right away, working 9hrs at my current job, then putting a good 2-3 hrs each night last week into redoing my research, refiguring and retesting allot a lot of wires, today that accumulated in a new conversion plan – and a new conversion harness :D

My work place for the afternoon



And 3 hrs of soldering later, tadar a new conversion harness is born!



So I had to try it out before I lost daylight.









Things again didn’t go well, only the radio, turn signals (and thus hazard), the high beam light, and the dash lights worked, everything else failed to work.

I figured I had made a wire mistake, or something, so back inside to check the wire diagrams but to no avail + Mrs_Gee wanted to go to the cinema so I called it a day.

Only being a sad geek while watching the film (which was quite good) I couldn’t stop wondering what had scuppered my harness, and then bingo – iirc from the wire diagrams all the things that had failed ran from one fuse, and the few things that did work came from different fuses – it couldn’t be so simple could it? So getting back from the cinema I went out and had a looky….Turns out was just a fuse, silly me had plugged the wire harness in with the keys in the ignition and power on – this must have popped the fuse to the dials/cluster some how. So one 10A fuse change later and bingo success!

Before all that worked:



After:


So right now, the wiring seams to be sorted (till I find a facelift heater matrix), next up comes the really scary bit. Now as I touched upon before, the eg and ek dashes are very different, the eg dash is a one piece dash with a bit of metal frame work – but its one big lump. The ek dash is a big metal frame that everything else bolts to – including the steering column!

So I’m pretty confident the dash will fit dimensionally, however the steering column on the EG bolts to a metal plate which is part of the chassis, as it may have dawned on you, this metal plate gets in the way, as is gonna have to be cut off if I’m to fit the metal frame for the ek dash. The risk being once its cut off – there’s no going back I HAVE to make the ek dash fit. Plus since I don’t have a facelift ek9 heater matrix ive picked up a preface lift matrix uber cheap late last year, ill use that with a std eg heater controls bodged somewhere so I have a heater that works till I find a facelift one for a reasonable price.

This next stage wont be happening for a week or so, as ive got tam’s MOT next week so I’m gonna run the std dash as I know it works 100%, pass the mot then start cutting. With some luck it might be all ready for japfest…. And if not anyone wanna buy an entry ticket and track time :lol:

Ta for looking
 
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Oh and a bits I need list:

Rear Fog light switch (rectangular type to fit in the slot next to the wing mirrors switch)
Facelift EK9 complete heater matrix, with wiring – I think some jap import EK4’s had the spanky fully electric controlled matrix, either will be sweet
RHD black airbag tray, I can only seam to find LHD ones 
EK9 ‘Red stitch’ gear gaiter
Black middle blanking plug (covers the bolt hole above the top air vent in the dash)

Money waiting, but I wont pay ‘type-r’ tax so if your expecting it, don’t bother – I will wait months even years if I have to, to get the right bits at a reasonable price.

Ta
 
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Nice to see your still prgressing with the EG project. Change of dash again.. i guess you've been waiting for this for a long time :nice:
 
Looks like a good project there mate, glad you got the wiring sorted out :nice: get yourself to honda for the gaiter it is only £30. There is an ek9 in newcastle that is being broken but i dont think it is a facelift, it is on ebay when you do a search for ek9.
 
wow, good job, i know thats a very in depth swap, were you able to keep use of the ac/heater?
 
well its not done yet

At the moment the whole thing has been taken back out and the eg dash refitted as ive got my cars MOT next week and the facelift ek9 has no rear foglight switch (and i dont have the time to sort one and wire it in)

However after the mot, ill be getting back to full on fitting the ek dash inplace, whcih is gonna mean alot of angle grinding of the chassis, and some inventive hole finding :D

Blinx - im hoping to use the facelift ek heater controls 100% (apart from A/C as i dont have it) but i need to find a facelift ek9 heater matrix - without being totally ripped off for the privilage (imo £200 is a silly price for a part that yes is rare but isnt that indemand) So for the time being ive got a prefacelift heater matrix, which should work fine and then ill just have to set the temp lever to hot, and use a std eg heater controler in the passenger foot well or something for the elec controls till i find one for a more resonable price :)

Ill be crack on with this again from next weekend - ill keep ya all updated.

Oh and before i took the dash out, i fitted EG door cards and they worked very very well :D





 
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Hey Chris,

Tam's looking good :)

where in Nun are ya from mate?
 
bloody small world innin :)

originaly from stockingford, now living over attleborough way, how about yourself?


Btw more on this to be updated this weekend when the angle grinder comes out :D
 
hahah yeh i know :D

well im originally from attleborough but now in weddington, but fair few of my friends live down the 'borough still so im usually around!

Gotta say the projects goin good!
 
And so my friends we continue our tail…

So at last England bathed in sun and heat and stuff! Decided to get cracking on with bolting the dash into place, sure the electrics work, and sure the plastics all ‘rested’ into place but there’s a lot more to get done.



Thus after stripping back out the EG dash (as I had to refit it for its MOT test which it passed with flying colours ;) ) my initial plan was to cut the plate which the steering column and eg dash bolts onto off – as the EK dash has a big frame work which it all bolts to instead (stupid ek’s :p )





Now cutting bits off the chassis, never good – especially when you have no idea if the end result is actually going to fit or not, however I couldn’t think of a better way to do it, so I got prepared....

As I crouched in the car, both the doors shut (too keep noise in the car), the sun beating down, running over the plan in my head… tbh scared sh1tless that it wasn’t going to work and I would have written off my car just to fit a dashboard :lol: So I sat… and thought… and sat… and in the back of my mind a voice – in an obi won type way – kept repeating itself from a conversation I had with a mate of mine just the day before (who will remain nameless to save his growing ego :p ) – ‘why not cut the ek frame’…can I cut the ek frame?........ And then I thought why not! Cut up the ek frame work where the steering column mounts and use the original EG one – so obvious! so simple! hell it had got to be worth a shot, and at least if it didn’t work I could still us my car, and all ek’s have the same dash frame!

So I got out the car and things moved pretty fast!







Basically it fitted :D Though I still had to cut one bit of the chassis this bit:





But I can still fit my eg dash without any problems  so it just left some brackets needing to be made up each side, so I set to making them :D



 
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Again things moved fast so sorry for the lack of pics was hot wanted to get it done :p

Nice new £10 OEM CTR red stitch gear gaiter :)



Had to make the driver side air vent feed a bit smaller to fit over the EG steering column plate, smaller but the air can still pass down it :)



Also test fitted some EG door cards, as I knew I was gonna get asked ‘ahh but can you fit door cards’ – even tho I don’t use door cards cus im…. Dead good or something…









So there, eg door cards fit and tho not 100% its pretty good if ya ask me.

Anywho I just kept at it, fitting bits, and more fitting bits and then suddenly….Tadar….








So yeah… its all in, need a few more std ek brackets, mainly the one at the bottom in the middle of the dash and the 2 that the gear and handbrake trim mount to, but they are pretty firm as they are for now 


Oh I kinda got these as well ;)








A pair of Bride Low Max Gias Sport FRP Reclining Seats and today I altered my old custom bride seat rails to suit :D



Currently got the dash out again as im playing around with a few little things, but ill get some good piccys when its all back in and the seats are in :D

Ta for reading!

Edit oh and im currently running no heater matrix what so ever, couldnt use the eg one, my dad lost my prefacelift ek one and i cant find a facelift one for reasonable price so ill run without till i find one :)
 
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cheers guys :D

And now…. All done :D


Last 2 brackets made for the passenger side



And made a slight cut to the dash so the cluster fitted better.



And tadar….

















Thank you and goodnight to 18months of thinking, homework, part finding, money spending, late nights, stress and worry…… I have problems what can I say :p
 
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