anti-role bar upgrades


Not yet no i need a good tinker with it over xmas still need to replace all the bushings with polly ones and get lower braces so that might fix it duno
 
Kozy said:
If you apply this belief to suspension tuning, you're going to have a bad time.
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Yeah I have to agree. What may work for one setup, may not for another. To add more to the confusion, what one person likes and works as far as a car setup goes, really may not for another person, it may do the exact opposite.
 
I was more looking at is as "I'll fit the biggest one I can, because bigger is better" but it just doesn't work like that, you can't apply that kind of logic to suspension tuning and expect a decent car out of it.
 
Kozy said:
I was more looking at is as "I'll fit the biggest one I can, because bigger is better" but it just doesn't work like that, you can't apply that kind of logic to suspension tuning and expect a decent car out of it.
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:nice:
 
Stick ek9 bars on it,
Honda thought it was a great idea for a road car, doubt they're wrong.
 
Kozy said:
If you apply this belief to suspension tuning, you're going to have a bad time.
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This. How thick the ARB should be depends largely on 2 factors imho: the driver (his/her skills and personal preference) and the (road) conditions you're gonna drive on. And on the road stiffer is certainly NOT always better. I have had a Civic with 6k springrate up front and in corners with bumps etc it kept less traction than my DC2 with little under 4k springrate.

Besides that thicker ARB's make the car more difficult to control (apart from the question wether the car will be faster in corners); lift-off oversteer being the most dangerous thing. With a really thick ARB the car can be tricky and dangerous, easily sending you in a situation in which you will end with the rear of your car in the crash barrier or much worse, hitting a tree with the driversside of your car in high speed. We all think we are really good drivers but the reality is that by far the majority of drivers cannot recover from such lift-off oversteer.

Try Type-R ARB's first. Front is probably thick enough. Thicker on the front = more understeer. My DC2 had less understeer than the Z3 Coupe of a mate...so go figure, stock Type R's certainly are not understeering bitches ;) From there on you can find out wether this fits your cars setup, your skill and road conditions that you drive on.
 
well after having a tweak with the campers and some driving tekneak advice from a stock car racing friend my understear seems to have reduced alot
 
I have been toying the idea of arb upgrades. After going round brands have settled.. The stock ek4 front bar (same size as ek9) and a ek9, dc2 rear arb.. Gives the car just a touch of oversteer.. Bearing in mind not on the throttle! With no LSD the car will understeer on the throttle, soon as you lift off (obviously lol) or enter a corner not on the throttle the back slides around quite nicely, not all of a sudden kicks and throws the back it's a gradual which is nice to anticipate..

One other thing I don't actually know my spring rates :S I have got the numbers on the eibach springs but no idea haha!
 
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