Windows 7


If its anything like vista, i will be staying well clear. Had it on my vaio laptop and it was haddock. got it removed and put the most up to date xp on. took ages to get all the right drivers but miles better os. ugh i get a sore head thinking about how bad vista is! :nono: enough of my rant. i will wait till i see this windows 7 under pressure before i comment on it!
 
Been running windows 7 RC on my pc for ages runs fine and faster than my xp tho that installation had issues hence the change.
I do have one big gripe tho if you have a creative labs sound card STAY AWAY from vista and win 7 or ditch it as i have had nothing but trouble and this is a common theme Creative fault for poor driver support not microsoft I believe. I will not be buying another creative sound card howeve I actually am considering Windows 7 over XP for now.
 
elchunk said:
If its anything like vista, i will be staying well clear. Had it on my vaio laptop and it was haddock. got it removed and put the most up to date xp on. took ages to get all the right drivers but miles better os. ugh i get a sore head thinking about how bad vista is! :nono: enough of my rant. i will wait till i see this windows 7 under pressure before i comment on it!
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I'd like to know the specs of that laptop, what version of Vista you had, and when you had it (pre-SP1, SP1, or SP2). So many people like you bitch about it when you didn't even give it a chance. If you know what the hell you are doing and get Vista set up correctly on good hardware, it's way better than XP (****, I had it on low end piece of **** laptop Vista worked great and still works great on). As I've stated time and time again, my main rig, XP ran like total ****. Awful. I reinstalled it twice hoping it was a fluke. Nope. Total **** every time. After SP1 was released for Vista, I put it on my rig. Like night a frickin day. Booted faster, every app loaded faster, games were less choppy, so on so forth. Windows 7 improves upon much of that.

Matt-EK9 said:
Been running windows 7 RC on my pc for ages runs fine and faster than my xp tho that installation had issues hence the change.
I do have one big gripe tho if you have a creative labs sound card STAY AWAY from vista and win 7 or ditch it as i have had nothing but trouble and this is a common theme Creative fault for poor driver support not microsoft I believe. I will not be buying another creative sound card howeve I actually am considering Windows 7 over XP for now.
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WHICH Creative card are you having trouble with? I have a X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Profess1onal PCI-e. It has presented absolutely no problems. My Audigy 2ZS however DID have trouble under Vista and lots of it, hence why I got the X-Fi. The X-Fi's are pretty solid or at least the PCI-e versions are.
 
Im running an X-Fi Xtreme Gamer 7.1 PCI card. I have tried all the drivers I can possibly get my hands on still with no improvement in the playback windows 7 also wont see my mic on the mobo sound card so im currently recording using the x-fi and playback using the mobo sound not ideal but it was a tempoary work around.
 
Have you tried installing the driver update through Windows Update? Even after installing the latest driver from Creative's website, a driver update kept showing up in Windows Update. I've also run this exact same card (in the same rig of course) under Windows 7 RC and it worked just fine. It even retained all the functionality.

Ain't the Xtreme Gamer one of the early cards made before Vista came out? The newer Titaniums were made to be Vista compatible. And since 7 is pretty much Vista SE, they work fairly well under it.
 
Techy said:
Have you tried installing the driver update through Windows Update? Even after installing the latest driver from Creative's website, a driver update kept showing up in Windows Update. I've also run this exact same card (in the same rig of course) under Windows 7 RC and it worked just fine. It even retained all the functionality.

Ain't the Xtreme Gamer one of the early cards made before Vista came out? The newer Titaniums were made to be Vista compatible. And since 7 is pretty much Vista SE, they work fairly well under it.
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Yh its a slighty older card, Ive tried the update thingy but had the problem still perhaps ill try it again if you say you had the same card working fine must be my bad luck. Thanks for the info.
 
Well it's not the same exactly. You have an older pre-Vista X-Fi while I have one of the newer post-Vista X-Fi Titaniums. Mine's also a PCI-e card instead of PCI.

See my Audigy 2ZS is also pre-Vista (obviously) and it had loads of trouble under Vista. Lots of playback glitches, many features were missing, sounded like crap, etc. After installing Vista, I immediately ordered the X-Fi Titanium cause I refuse to use onboard sound. Never had any issues with it. Sounds 10x better than my Audigy (even when comparing it to the Audigy in XP), LOTS of nice features, looks cool through my see through side panel (the Titanium models have a metal covering like a video card, or at least mine does), and gives a mild game performance increase in games (naturally the Fatal1ty model is marketed for games).
 
Just checked to be sure and yes, the Titanium cards do use a different or at least revised chip. The older ones such as your use the older EMU20K1 chip while the Titaniums use the newer EMU20K2 chip.

Also Auzentech sells some cards that use X-Fi chips. There are 2 models with the newer EMU20K2 they are the Forte and HomeTheater HD. Their Prelude card still uses the older EMU20K1 chip.

And upon further reading I have discovered that the EMU20K2 does indeed fix problems related to the older chip that drivers couldn't solve such as a constant popping noise. My Audigy had that problem even in XP.
 
Techy said:
Just checked to be sure and yes, the Titanium cards do use a different or at least revised chip. The older ones such as your use the older EMU20K1 chip while the Titaniums use the newer EMU20K2 chip.

Also Auzentech sells some cards that use X-Fi chips. There are 2 models with the newer EMU20K2 they are the Forte and HomeTheater HD. Their Prelude card still uses the older EMU20K1 chip.

And upon further reading I have discovered that the EMU20K2 does indeed fix problems related to the older chip that drivers couldn't solve such as a constant popping noise. My Audigy had that problem even in XP.
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Thanks for that glad I finally have a definative answer I bought my card just before they brought out all the new stuff and it still cost me a fair bit so pretty dissapointed that its just redundant now. Think ill be keeping xp till I can afford to build a new rig then.
 
Titaniums aren't that expensive. There are 3 models (in the US at least). Titanium (the lower model), Titanium Fatal1ty Profess1onal (the one I have, the middle model), Titanium Fatal1ty Champ1on (basically a Profess1onal with the I/O Panel).

They are listed on Newegg.com at $79.99, $139.99, and $169.99 USD respectively right now. But you're in the UK though right? I'm not sure what websites you could get one for cheap.
 
bipbip216 said:
Just wondering what people think? My first impressions weren't very good... a friend was DJ'ing last night with all the software running off his laptop and windows 7 decided it wanted to update itself and restart in the middle of a set. I did have to laugh very hard, just thought id share it with you guys... here are some pics
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I'm running windows 7 ultimate, and have been running it for awhile with no problems as of yet. I can say that it is much more stable than vista, faster and more responsive with the applications.
I'm also running vista on my laptop and its been running fine. Now I'm also running rane serato on vista and it sometimes lags with it. The software recommends that it be installed on a system with xp. I have not tested rane serato on xp.
And like techy says the system will alert you if its going to restart after it updates, maybe your friend didn't see the notification?
 
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