Wilwoods or spoons which should I go for???


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adam-ek9

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I have a chance to buy some wilwood dynalite brakes from freakyparts or I can get some second hand spoons, not sure which to go for??

Also if I was to go for the wilwoods I am so confused with piston sizes etc
I would be running a 1'' master cylinder with rear ek9 calipers, car has abs too so if anyone has any idea what exact piston size I should get it would be great. I am running 15'' 949 racing wheels.

If anyone has any info it would be much appriciated.
 
What engine do you have? For example I'm running 233bhp and have tried to make my ds2500 pads and dixcel fade on my last two trackdays and I can't.
 
What I love about the spoons are the pads that are used. They are not "custom shape", OEM ITR pads could be used on street, swap to race pads at track. Very cool option to have, well to me it is. :p
 
Piston size is critical to building a good brake system. You can't just slap some bigger pistons in and expect miracles, though by the sounds of it you already understand it's not that simple.

The Spoons are a fixed size with a 4" piston area vs the stock EK9 3.94". A good match out of the box, as you'd expect.

I'm assuming you're looking purely at the Wilwood calipers for 282mm discs, same as the Spoons, in which case the closest match is the 1.62" pistons which give you 4.12" piston area, a bit more over the Spoons but probably nothing you'll notice.

If you are careful with pad choices, you can go for the 1.50" pistons on 282mm discs, as they'll allow you to use better pads at the front for improved fade resistance (usually combined with higher friction) without sending the bias forwards. If you are not careful with pad choice, I'd not recommend this as it could become slightly rear biased on a hot dry day with sticky tyres.

If you are going for the 298mm kit, then the 1.50" pistons are really the only decent choice.

I would not recommend the 1.75" pistons for any setup. Far too big for any Honda application.
 
wilwoods i have some for sale haha
 
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yep im surprised they havnt sold will have them with me at japfest
 
matt > similar willwood brand new set costs about 500 (a set with braided lines etc is 560), so 450 for used one is too expensive :) something about 300 would sound more attractive.
 
You can get the spoon calipers new for just under £800 on rhd Japan I believe,
Someone posted link the other day...
 
Or EP3 brakes. I'd go for that personally. All depends on application though. What are you using the car for?
 
I run wilwoods on mine, currently with a 15/16 MC however am upgrading to a 1" MC soon. I went for wilwoods over spoon due to a couple of things. Spoon are expensive, the pads are also expensive. I don't know if the spoon brakes are better than the Wilwoods, for the price i'd hope they are but decent pads for the wilwoods are around £70/£80 oppose to the Honda prices for pads. I think my whole setup new cost around £660 i think that was for calipers, carriers, DS2500 pads, 282 MTEC grooved and dimpled discs and HEL braided lines. And i must say, going from standard EK4 262s with ABS to the Wilwoods with ABS removed was unbelievable. Pedal travel is a bit too far for my liking but am hoping the 1" MC will sort that.
 
Would say Wilwood Midilite Calipers are about on par with the Spoons as for performance. Doubt there would be much difference. Maybe little better heat managment with the Spoons as they retain the Std pad which has a slightly larger surface face.

But saying that there is quite a difference in price when it comes to pads as the Wilwoods use a common pad thats widely used. As said Pads for wilwoods are around the £70-90mark for decent pads where as OE pads of same compound will be around £20-40 more expensive most the time.

Wilwoods are far cheaper to replace and service. And far cheaper to buy.

Spoons are cool as hell and handy to use OE pads. But all depends on what you want.
 
Mono block spoons! 8) Might need new wheels, but that would killer!
 
I would always go for the Wilwoods, but that's because I sell them :lol:

What are you looking for? Costs, performance, looks?

Costs wise, both initial purchase and ongoing consumables the Wilwood setup is cheaper. It uses a standard pad pattern which is used by almost every manufacturer. EBC, Ferodo, Carbotech, Carbon Lorraine, Pagid, Mintex etc so there's no shortage of compounds.

Performance wise the calipers fit to the 282mm discs and have a similar piston area as the Spoons. Yes the pad is slightly smaller in the Wilwoods but that doesn't appear to have a detrimental effect.

Looks wise well that's personal choice isn't it. Anything can be painted :)

Bang for buck, well I would say the Wilwoods have it. Nearly 1/2 the cost of the Spoons, and fractionally less in regards performance if you can notice it - certainly not 1/2 the performance.

Whichever you go for, you'll notice a big step up from the standard single piston slider setup.
 
Stakis said:
matt > similar willwood brand new set costs about 500 (a set with braided lines etc is 560), so 450 for used one is too expensive :) something about 300 would sound more attractive.
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I would say £450 for a nearly new kit is very good. The kit is £579 new with standard pads and no lines (RRP not GB price).
 
Thank you for all the replys to my question it is much appriciated. Freakyparts I have pm'd you regarding wilwoods. Thanks for all the replys. Adam.
 
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