Will it make 200bhp @ wheels?


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rallypvc

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Building my B16A2 want to no if you guys think I'll make 200 @ wheels or how close with following mods

B16A2 bottom end with new acl race bearings
EK9 ctr pistons
4.25kg flywheel
itr stage2 head with skunk2 pro series 2 cams omni flat top valves and supertech springs and titanium retainers and spring types LMAs and skunk2 pro series 2 adj pullies
OBX throttle bodies
spoon ex manifold
2.5inch custom build exhaust system

gearbox
standard EK9 S4C with LSD and new 4.928 FD


Not decided what ecu to use yet so suggestions taken lol
 
Which country you from mate? that will determin if you get 200WHP! Cos if your from the UK then 200 WHP from a B16 is near on impossible im sure...

Your build might net 170 at the wheels.. ish

Someone can correct me by all means :)
 
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My brother runs a 1.6 EK9 rally-car.

I'm sure there'll be a million people after me saying the absolute opposite, but with a standard bottom end, Jenvey ITB's and brand new (since they wear out fast) Skunk2 Pro2 Stage 2 cams with all new Skunk2 supporting parts and flow work done the engine made 3 BHP extra top end, about 20 BHP more in places further down the rev range and more torque (but this was also due to the addition of ITB's) over standard. It was 170 BHP after all the work on one dyno and 194 BHP on another but as I said; not really much of an increase over stock if you don't count the ITB's. And I know all the work was carried out properly. Would we bother with Skunk2 again? Not in a million, billion, trillion years. We're going to increase the compression in one last attempt to get some more power, although this process would yield BHP regardless of cams so it's difficult to tell if the Skunk2 cams are actually any good.

Though, others rave about the massive increase in feelable power even at stock compression, personally I think they are deluding themselves.
 
Why are you so botherd about a certain figuer ? It could make 160whp on one dyno and 220whp on another. At the end of the day as long as its built and tuned well you should notice a nice gain with those mods.
 
highly unlikely out of a b16a engine. an awful lot of work an money needed. better off spent on a b18c instead. would be cheaper
 
head bought of saint matt lol

well specced head now and a bargain too

i wouldnt bother with a spoon mani get a TODA instead
 
kev98sir said:
highly unlikely out of a b16a engine. an awful lot of work an money needed. better off spent on a b18c instead. would be cheaper
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If this is for rallying it needs to remain a 1.6 to compete in the 1.6 class. The next class up is the 2.0 class, which he would have to compete in if he had a 1.8.
 
It is for rallying and does need to stay as a 1.6 200@ wheels was just somethin to aim for just want as much as posible from it
would lightening and balencing the bottom end produce more power? because I can do that myself at work.
Any ideas on a quality management system to make it as tunable as I can?
 
rallypvc said:
It is for rallying and does need to stay as a 1.6 200@ wheels was just somethin to aim for just want as much as posible from it
would lightening and balencing the bottom end produce more power? because I can do that myself at work.
Any ideas on a quality management system to make it as tunable as I can?
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You will need some very expensive headwork to get you near 200whp from a b16a. Seen it done in the states but your talking about 10k on head alone and thats before you include all the supporting mods needed. Hondata s300 is a good EMS for the b series.
 
Had my eye on the s300 like I say it was just a figure to aim for might get the crank lightened and balenced and port and polish the head and manifolds
 
Championship White said:
If this is for rallying it needs to remain a 1.6 to compete in the 1.6 class. The next class up is the 2.0 class, which he would have to compete in if he had a 1.8.
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rallypvc said:
It is for rallying and does need to stay as a 1.6 200@ wheels was just somethin to aim for just want as much as posible from it
would lightening and balencing the bottom end produce more power? because I can do that myself at work.
Any ideas on a quality management system to make it as tunable as I can?
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kulo said:
get 1.8 or 2.0 block
will be easier
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Your engine management should be determined by what your tuner is comfortable with. If nobody in your region really has any experience with the various systems out there, then I suggest either the Hondata S300 (as previously stated), eCtune or Neptune.

The latter two have been well received and have been solid in terms of their customer support and their programming.
 
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