what mods do i need for a spoon ecu to run right?


Iirc the spoon ecu's where mapped to suite the original customers spec, so you're very unlikely to find one that perfect for your spec.
 
Not so.

You could buy generic ECU's from spoon from overseas. That are just mapped to specific years of cars as such. As there will be different maps for the likes of 96 and 98 spec DC2's

Would say there probably are a few custom tweaked Spoon ECU's about, but most would be generic ECU's, base tuned without economy in mind like the stock ECU's, but for cars with breathing mods and standard internals.

You don't need anything special to make them run they will just make your car run a bit better than standard and adapt better to basic breathing mods.
 
Not trying to bust your balls but why buy a spoon ecu? Put the money towards a proper tailor made map instead of some generic b.s that will damage your setup.
 
Although I do agree a tailor made map (from a decent tuner) to your setup is the best option.

But saying a spoon ECU "will" damage your setup is bull.

There are ton's of people running spoon ECU's, Myself included and they run fine. Far superior to the standard map I was running.
 
to be honest from what i read tonite iam split down the middle,ive paid for the ecu now lol so what i think i will do it run it for now to have little fun with it and then take it off in the summer and fit a chiped ecu and get it mapped,is there any different between b18c spoon ecu and b18c6 or there all the same map? reason i ask is the ecu came from a c6 engine but modded to jdm spec but my car is jdm 98 spec
 
I read a post on honda-tech about a guy who tried and tested the different variations of P73 ECU's on his B18C and his results were same power and same air/fuel ratio. I believe the stock C6 ECU would make less power than both the 96 and 98 spec P73 ECU's. However, in terms of the Spoon ECU its mapped with mods in mind and you have to bare in mind that all the JDM ITR and UKDM ITR blocks are basically the same so i would conclude by saying there is very little difference between the Spoon P73 ECU's. Hope this helps
 
As said it will run, it just depends on what you determine is "right". It will run, maybe gain a little throughout your power band, but that doesn't mean its running well or efficiently.

They say the spoon ECU is designed for a gain in stock engines or simple bolt ons like intake/exhaust but this is all using their 100 octane fuel. You could be running lean for all you know, plus the extra rev limit without supporting mods is pointless, you won't be making any more power on an typical bolt on setup past 8k and anything past 8.5k is risking your valve train. For example a stock b16 intake runs out of puff past 8k, not sure on the type R intake.

Its just my opinion and I'm no tuning expert, but it isn't your best option if you want things running "right".

Save up for a proper tune pal for your engine, instead of trying to match your engine to the spoon ecu.
 
Knew id seen something somewhere.

http://www.ek9.org/forum/engine/55265-spoon-ecu.html

Hi guys,

Thought I'd create a thread to give some info to anyone running a Spoon ECU. People often wonder what parts it was designed to be used with and I've also seen it mentioned a few times that peoples engines seem to run lean after installing the ECU.

Well I've just arrived back from Japan and while I was there I called in at Spoon so thought I'd ask about their ECUs for you.

Basically the ECU has been mapped with enough scope to provide an improvement with anything from a completely standard car through to intake/exhaust upgrades but nothing more. The important part however is that they are mapped to be used with 100 octane fuel as this is the rating of premium pump fuel in Japan. The guy I was speaking to at Spoon looked rather worried when I said we usually get 95,97 and 98 available in the UK! After he made a phone call to confirm, he said that you may be able to get away with running it on 98 if your engine is healthy, as long as you don't drive too hard but realistically it needs to be run on 100 octane fuel to work efficiently and not run the risk of damaging anything

I hope that clears up a fairly commonly asked question
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I'll sum it up ---> a new ecu which is mapped to your current setup.
 
Not a spoon ecu but ..

On my Glanza v I ran a jam ecu , plug and play the same as the spoon and setup for breathing mods .

I managed to get 210bhp and 196ftlbs with the jam ecu a ct9 hybrid at 1.1bar and the usual decat, exhaust etc + fpr.

I couldn't fault the jam ecu , removed fuel cut , raised rev limit and was more aggressive some people managed to run a td04 with them which is pretty cool.

No costly remaps either
 
Why would u run a b16b or b18c or any jdm engine on 95 ron.. Even a standard engine!!! Japans standard fuel is 98 ron and there super is 102 ron depending on what part of japan your in... Even if the spoon ecu was mapped on 100 ron (its not) we have 99ron and bp do a 103 ron in some places in the uk!! I dont think 1 ron would make a massive difference to your engine nothing i would worry about. If anything on my fuel/air gauage it runs slightly rich when driving hard, i use v-power nitro + which is 99ron. Most people have problems due to using the wrong spoon ecu for their car.. I run a spoon ecu in my ek9 and dc5, both for about 2 years with no issues at all.. And after edging on my mates jdm ep3 top end in my dc5 after his map at euro spec i think people under estimate the potential of the spoon/mugen ecus
 
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