Toyo t1r's....are they this crap?


Luger

Luger

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Hi there,

I got a set of Toyo t1r's that are fairly new. Done around 2000-2500km but they must have been on the car for at least 18-24 months with 18 of them not being used as the car just sat in my brother's garage till I bought it. At the beginning they seemed to react fairly well with no issues (winter months) but lately (temp rising here in Malta) I have noticed that when cold, they just slide like hell while cornering like I'm on ice with no grip. When they heat up above normal, I don't seem to have any grip in a straight line either and just get wheel spins with the car swinging like crazy!

Ok I don't really drive like a granny but I'm not a lunatic either and know my limits very well so I don't think that tyres should react like this. When they sort of get to an optimum temp, they are not too bad but I still don't really trust them any more. To be fair, our tarmac is not good and some of our roads surfaces look more like marble than grippy tarmac but i still think tyres are not supposed to handle like this.

Im running 32psi front and 28psi back which I think is the norm for street use.

Are these tyres really as crap as they say and experiencing this myself or is the fact that they had been on the car for so long and unused making them react this way?

Am I using correct pressure?

Is the Malta heat combined to our crappy tarmac taking their toll?

Any similar experiences?

Thanks
 
I had them on my dc2 and it felt like the tyres were flat in the corners, these cars benefit from stiffer sidewall tyres I find. Switched to handbook rs2 and felt great.
 
You tyre pressures are low, should be 2.4 and 2.3.
Toyo are ok for what they cost but IMO spend little more and get something decent. Another ok decent up coming brand is Kumo.
Dunx
 
I've not had experiences that bad but I had T1's on my MR2 & they were useless. The side walls were so soft that they looked like they were flat when they had 36psi in them.
 
Absolute rubbish, they have a nickname over here'THE DITCH FINDERS' mate recked a civic with these on it,maybe not all tyre fault but had a lot to do with it, I bought a dc2 with the similar toyo proxie 4's and the 1st thing I did after driving with them was got them off there not for a car with any kind of performance I'd trust any other budget tyre before these lol
 
they're ok in wet, but not great otherwise. They are pretty much one of the cheapest tyres here in uk for an ek9. Go get some AD08's they're awesome, will transform your car :nice:
 
Forgot to add, tyres do go off after a while.. think i've read that decline is very noticeable after 2 years.
 
For what your car has cost and money you have probably spent on it is it really worth saving a small amount of money on **** tyres and risking it all. The main problem is people putting them on performance cars and thinking they will perform as such. On a **** slow car they will do alright.
 
Never again, we had a 205/40/17 on a 7J wheel and took an hour and a half to get all four tires off the rims again. Rims paint was damaged as well. Performance wise I don't know since we only used them on our EP4 diesel.
 
Haha, I got a lot of flak when I told someone on this forum to stay away from them and labeled them "budget". If only people stopped spending money on tow hooks and billet oil caps and invested in some decent rubber instead..... I've had them on my 9 as I bought the car with a new set - good enough for a daily but even for that purpose I would buy other tyres, on a performance car these are completely useless.
 
I had the t1rs on road wheels before, even struggled through a trackday with them lol
I thought they where ok when they where cold, get them hot and they are a disaster on track.
I quite liked them as a road tyre, never gave me any greif in the bends, but then I don't drive flat out on the road, hardly ever lost traction on my b18 ek9. That's with a 4.9fd too.
I had similar pressures to you aswell, if you don't like them get new tyres. Ad08's and be done with it lol
 
And heres me thinking they were pretty good on the road, but like Jesse i also dont drive like a tool on the road. Yes on track they go off due to heat. But then they are not designed for this purpose. If you are tracking your car reguarly then buy something fit for purpose.
FWIW i had them on track with 250 hp running through them and found them ok.

Luger, after being in Malta last year it is probably the heat and the roads. i would say your tire pressures are too high also. By the time you heat them up, youl be near 40 psi!

Murray
 
i've read same about these tires mate. hence i got R1R's last weekend and although i haven't got any experience with the T1r's i must say the R1r's blew me away already while being on the car so short. deffo something to look into.
 
Thanks guys for all your input.

Will increase the pressure to 35psi front and 33psi rear to strengthen the sidewalls since they are so soft which was probably making the car so wobbly in bends and even when accelerating in a straight line.

Our crap roads and tarmac don't help either so better invest in a set of AD08's in the near future :nice:

Cheers guys :thanks:
 
My 2p.

Have these on a set of 15" 5zigen's on my GT turbo, and yes I thought they were pretty shocking. It wasn't overpowered but the fronts gave away quite often in acceleration.

The R888 were a class of their own though in comparison, not too bad in the wet but of course you had to be very situation aware.

Tyler
 
Luger said:
Thanks guys for all your input.

Will increase the pressure to 35psi front and 33psi rear to strengthen the sidewalls since they are so soft which was probably making the car so wobbly in bends and even when accelerating in a straight line.

Our crap roads and tarmac don't help either so better invest in a set of AD08's in the near future :nice:

Cheers guys :thanks:
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If you've crap road's you don't want to waste a beautiful set of AD08's better to keep the toyo's for road & save yoko's for track :)
 
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