Stroking the B16b


if i use engle or scat 95mm grank with there rods and ctr piston i will have 2000cc, is anyone try this? is this stroker kit reliable or is best to use b20 block?
 
ALEX-CY said:
if i use engle or scat 95mm grank with there rods and ctr piston i will have 2000cc, is anyone try this? is this stroker kit reliable or is best to use b20 block?
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those stroker kit cranks are beyond the install capability of most machine shops, make sure your machine shop is confident they can install/resize/customize/align hone/etc... because they may have to.
 
so if i use ls crank and rods with ctr pistons(balance and intall by profetional) ctr head(porter and polich)2,5" exhaust,hi flow cat, 4/1 header and tune by profetional(with power fc) how many hp i will have and how reliable it wil be?
thanks
 
hi there,

i dont know if this is any help, but i have a b16b.i had it PNP, blueprint and balanced at spoon, and use a spoon stroker kit.

couple of other minor stuff along, like spoon TB gen2,jun chipped ecu etc.

spoon stroker kit, good enough for me. it all depends on how much power you want. or rather, how committed are you in this project.

i think using a spoon stoker kit almost makes a b16b a b18c5r if im not mistaken.

again, i maybe wrong.

cheers
 
doh said:
hi there,

i dont know if this is any help, but i have a b16b.i had it PNP, blueprint and balanced at spoon, and use a spoon stroker kit.

couple of other minor stuff along, like spoon TB gen2,jun chipped ecu etc.

spoon stroker kit, good enough for me. it all depends on how much power you want. or rather, how committed are you in this project.

i think using a spoon stoker kit almost makes a b16b a b18c5r if im not mistaken.

again, i maybe wrong.

cheers
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thanks for the info
 
ALEX-CY said:
so if i use ls crank and rods with ctr pistons(balance and intall by profetional) ctr head(porter and polich)2,5" exhaust,hi flow cat, 4/1 header and tune by profetional(with power fc) how many hp i will have and how reliable it wil be?
thanks
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reliability comes down to 2 things:

-quality of work by the engine builder
-quality of tune by the tuner
 
blinx9900 said:
don't do it, you will have 13.0 compression and your pistons will likely contact the head/valves since piston to deck height would be .006 and i believe the minimum should be .0030

Instead maybe try using JDM b16 pistons (p30) this will give you 11.5 compression and a much safer .0035 piston to deck height.

I may be wrong about the deck height thing, i am not an engine builder.
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what if u use more thik headgasket with the b16b pistons?
 
Its been a while since i checked this thread, now with Stroker kits, there is always big brands like Spoon, Toda, Jun Auto the big 3. they can be pretty expensive.

So here is my Question, Im thinking of getting new ITR crank & Rod and reuse my B16B piston and get all new rings for it, then give it a rebuild. Good idea or not ?? or all new parts ?? and how about used [2nd hand] ITR crank & rod will it hold up as sometimes unknown conditions.

or ITR Crank with after market ITR Rod with B16b piston will that give it more power output ?? and reliability ?
 
Calbee said:
Its been a while since i checked this thread, now with Stroker kits, there is always big brands like Spoon, Toda, Jun Auto the big 3. they can be pretty expensive.

So here is my Question, Im thinking of getting new ITR crank & Rod and reuse my B16B piston and get all new rings for it, then give it a rebuild. Good idea or not ?? or all new parts ?? and how about used [2nd hand] ITR crank & rod will it hold up as sometimes unknown conditions.

or ITR Crank with after market ITR Rod with B16b piston will that give it more power output ?? and reliability ?
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i was thinking like you... but compression is over 12.. im worry tat the block might not last... Just wonder a thicker head gasket will help?? anyone done wit ITR crank,rod + CTR piston??? pls share....:)
 
tecque said:
i was thinking like you... but compression is over 12.. im worry tat the block might not last... Just wonder a thicker head gasket will help?? anyone done wit ITR crank,rod + CTR piston??? pls share....:)
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x2 or with ls crank,ls rod and ctr pistons?
 
93whitehatch said:
ive read up bout people stroking their b16b to 1800cc mostly with spoon stroker kit but ive read and heard your able to do it with either ls/gsr/itr crank and rods im wondering if anyone has done this because i got a couple ques such as

1)could i remain with the b16b piston while still remaining reliable?
2)is there anything else (any usual obstacle) that i would have to do to get the any crank in there if so what?
3)is there like a best combo from the three? or are the all the same?
4)what would be the c/r if i do go with this plan?

i do got more but dont just want to make a long boring list, this process intrigues me and i would like to know more about.....also what i mean by reliable is that i use my car as a daily to get me from school and work everyday
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well a bit slow for me to quote but ive done this on my ek9 1 month ago i took a crankshaft from a b18c5 engine wich is the integra type-r one and new eagle roads for the b18c5 engine and je high compression pistons 81.5 boring +-0.1 it works perfect reving at 10500 rpm and it makes 238 whp:) but i have also installed buddy club spec 4 camshafts and p1 racing retainers valves cam gears headers intake bla bla bla and an aem ems 1050 ecu
 
BuddyClubctr said:
well a bit slow for me to quote but ive done this on my ek9 1 month ago i took a crankshaft from a b18c5 engine wich is the integra type-r one and new eagle roads for the b18c5 engine and je high compression pistons 81.5 boring +-0.1 it works perfect reving at 10500 rpm and it makes 238 whp:) but i have also installed buddy club spec 4 camshafts and p1 racing retainers valves cam gears headers intake bla bla bla and an aem ems 1050 ecu
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from where are you in cyprus?
what is your full spec?
 
ALEX-CY said:
is the ctr pistons fit direct to ls rods?
the cr will be around 13,how many mm head gasket i must use to get 12:1 cr?
thanks
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b16b pistons fit to b18 rods
in b16a/b17a rods you need to mill the rod 1mm in each side

*eagle makes the worst cranks.*
if you want bigger displacement you can use b20 internals in a b16b block.its better to have 89mm crank vs 95mm,the money for the crank you'll spend them for bigger pistons - sleeving.
in cyprus nobody will balance your crank ,if you want to balanced it you must send it to US.

since you are from cyprus visit TRIAL CYPRUS
they've build lot of hondas and can help you,they can arrange you correct balancing ,building and tuning.
 
good day people. I just finished reading this thread and I found it really helpful and informative. I too have an 97 EK9 with b16b. everything is still oem. it already has 200,000kms on the odo and i'm planning to have the engine rebuilt. It still runs great but i think its time for the engine to have a rebuild.

since everything inside the block is a straight swap (being all parts came from the ITR) just wondering what else is needed in this swap? like do i gonna have issues with TB size, injectors, electrical wiring, sensors, etc. I'm talking about the non "cc UP" issues.

and also, which is better to use? an CTR tranny or the ITR ones?

again, this are some questions that some readers might be neglected

I apologize if this might be off topic.
:thanks:
 
NyolEK9 said:
good day people. I just finished reading this thread and I found it really helpful and informative. I too have an 97 EK9 with b16b. everything is still oem. it already has 200,000kms on the odo and i'm planning to have the engine rebuilt. It still runs great but i think its time for the engine to have a rebuild.

since everything inside the block is a straight swap (being all parts came from the ITR) just wondering what else is needed in this swap? like do i gonna have issues with TB size, injectors, electrical wiring, sensors, etc. I'm talking about the non "cc UP" issues.

and also, which is better to use? an CTR tranny or the ITR ones?

again, this are some questions that some readers might be neglected

I apologize if this might be off topic.
:thanks:
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You just need to upgrade the ecu, since the OEM B16B ecu will not do the job.

Since you're doing a rebuilt, you can install over sized oem pistons. 81.25 mm. hehhe :) Talk about this to your mechanic and ask him if he has a machine shop that can do this job.

And about the tranmission, CTR and ITR (96spec) are the same, they have a 4.40 final drive, both are good tranmissions.
 
Just also read this thread, I've just recently bought a B18'd ek9 with an ITR bottom end and the B16 head setup as some of you may know.

At the moment I presume it's running the standard ECU.. I've still got alot to learn as I've just discovered all this Honda business, but should my car be running aftermarket management? To suit the b18 bottom end? Because I'm worried it could be running wrong. It seems fine but could I be causing any damage?

Any help appreciated

Dale.
 
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^^Any one^^? Just worried I could be running lean and potentially cause damage?

Dale.
 
nice find! I want! but surely at that price there are going to be some hidden extra costs...?
 
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