oem or spoon??


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Anyone had both? Oem setup seems to have a very good rep and the spoon setup is made by the same people (showa)...how does the spoon setup compare? Performance and comfort wise?

Oem damper and oem springs or the spoon fixed damper and progressive springs.
 
^^ i would just get a proper adjustable suspension right away
 
I'm looking for a setup that is a good for the street. I'm not looking to lower the car or track it.

I have narrowed it down to spoon or oem.

I currently have the car on coilovers and they aren't too bad but are just a pain.

I do have a spare 2nd hand high mileage oem setup which will be going on but in the future I am planning a complete suspension refresh.
 
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Get the OEMS refreshed whilst they are off the car? Google for JHS racing, give him a ring and see if he'll do it. That will save you money on buying a set of spoon suspension. Alps, check ALL the suspension bushes as if they are knackered then new shocks and springs won't be as good as they can be.
 
What do you mean by refreshed?
The oem showa units are non rebuildable sealed units.
Yes a full check of all bushes will be done as a matter of course.
 
re bush the car and then spoon springs

I find it highly addictive to drive on the road, and still very trackable. Pot holes and bumps aren't an issue with this set up. B Road blaster

Then choose some good tyres AD08
 
Spoon dampers are superb.

Adjustable stuff the nice side of four figures just doesn't compare IMO.
 
I am leaning towards new spoon dampers and spring as I want to go for a fresh new setup and not all the bits are available new for the oem setup.

I could go for new oem dampers with spoon springs but then surely the spoon springs are better put to use on spoon dampers.
 
Kozy said:
Spoon dampers are superb.

Adjustable stuff the nice side of four figures just doesn't compare IMO.
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Totally disagree. I had a set of Spoon dampers for 4 years (covered about 35k total by the end) and I prefer my recent Meister R coilovers. Smoother damping and better front/rear balance. Plus they are fully adjustable if I feel the need to have the car corner-weighted or stiffened for track use.

Considering the Spoons are actually more expensive than Meister's, it's a no-brainer for me. The Spoon/Showa design are essentially 20+ years old. Damping technology has moved on, and it shows.
 
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Totally disagree. I had a set of Spoon dampers for 4 years (covered about 35k total by the end) and I prefer my recent Meister R coilovers. Smoother damping and better front/rear balance. Plus they are fully adjustable if I feel the need to have the car corner-weighted or stiffened for track use.

Considering the Spoons are actually more expensive than Meister's, it's a no-brainer for me. The Spoon/Showa design are essentially 20+ years old. Damping technology has moved on, and it shows.
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Maybe, maybe not. I'm not really sure what you mean by better front/rear balance, but turning the damping down to give a smoother ride isn't something I am particularly sold on.

My only real concern is the absolutely enormous range of cars that MeisterR cater for. I just can't bring myself to spend that much on suspension with questionable R&D on the specific vehicles.

It's all personal choice at the end of the day, if you've tried both and think the Meisters are better then fair play. :nice:
 
Been running spoon shocks for quite a few years now and I cant complain.

Great for road use and sure they will handle well for odd track day blast if need be.
 
I really think the spoon setup is the answer :)

Oem quality and near standard setup will be perfect for me as the car will be 99% road driven.
 
Kozy said:
Maybe, maybe not. I'm not really sure what you mean by better front/rear balance, but turning the damping down to give a smoother ride isn't something I am particularly sold on.

My only real concern is the absolutely enormous range of cars that MeisterR cater for. I just can't bring myself to spend that much on suspension with questionable R&D on the specific vehicles.

It's all personal choice at the end of the day, if you've tried both and think the Meisters are better then fair play. :nice:
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Put it this way, so far I've had Zeal Function B6's (10k, 7k springs), ITR spec Spoon kit and now the Meisters on my EG6. The Meisters offer the best combination of handling and usability. The Zeal's handled very well on perfectly smooth surfaces, but struggled to keep composed over even minor imperfections, throwing the car around. The Spoons were much better (much softer in general) but didn't ride particuarly well, considering that they were a street setup. The Meisters ride better and are less unsettled over damaged surfaces, but the car turns, grips and feels more stable. The Spoons never felt as if the rear engaged enough to help the car rotate, whereas the Meisters do.

As for being mass produced, well most suspension companies offer a wide-range of applications, even specialist companies such as Quantum and Aragosta. And occasionally the price and hype just don't live up to the price tag (Zeals). In the case of Spoon, Showa probably have a bigger supplier list than almost any suspension manufacturer out there, although I can appreciate their R&D capabilities. Ultimately though, you can discuss the scientific and technological merits all day, but realistically, either a suspension setup feels good (consistently) or it doesn't.

After trying them, I would never recommend Spoons at the price point they sell them. My 2 cents anyway.
 
I would love to hear a comparison between Koni/GC and Spoon progressive+Dampers...
 
Yep it would be good to hear from anyone who has run them, I have read only positive things.
 
I'm from the Caribbean and I'm curious about the suspension EK9 guys upgrade to. I'm building an EK3 and will be purchasing some coil overs today. HT guys use Koni/GC. Anyone? Can't find the threads in here...
 
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