Going to try non water based coolent for 2013


Seen this waterless coolant on Wheelers Dealers, should be good stuff!
 
To be fair it looks pretty good. I might try it. It has benefits for the likes of most of us who like to drive our cars hard.
 
I'll stick with OEM coolant And water thanks!
 
Really cannot see the point or benefit of this.

Your cooling system should not be operating at over 100℃.

If your water is vaporising within the cooling system then there is a problem with the system. These systems were designed with water cooling in mind as water has a very good thermal conductivity, much better than any oil based liquids. The use of certain steels and aluminiums within the block also help to dissipate heat quickly where needed most.

Oil based liquids have far higher boiling points but that is about all they offer. They will infact retain so much more heat aswell as taking longer to reach a suitable operating temperature and cooling down after the vehicle is switched off.

And as mentioned no water coolant should ever boil in a well designed and properly operating water cooling system anyway so the higher boiling point that these coolants offer really isn't a benefit anyway.
 
alEKs said:
Really cannot see the point or benefit of this.

Your cooling system should not be operating at over 100℃.

If your water is vaporising within the cooling system then there is a problem with the system. These systems were designed with water cooling in mind as water has a very good thermal conductivity, much better than any oil based liquids. The use of certain steels and aluminiums within the block also help to dissipate heat quickly where needed most.

Oil based liquids have far higher boiling points but that is about all they offer. They will infact retain so much more heat aswell as taking longer to reach a suitable operating temperature and cooling down after the vehicle is switched off.

And as mentioned no water coolant should ever boil in a well designed and properly operating water cooling system anyway so the higher boiling point that these coolants offer really isn't a benefit anyway.
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the video is primarily about corrosion if you listen/watch it, and they infact state water is the best form of coolant - not boiling points, the parts where they do talk about boiling points are in reference to older cars in traffic (which would not of been designed well back in the 1920s) as the technology wasnt there...
 
dont see the issue with using water in an ek9 or simalar aged car though.
 
Another method of money making and I'm sure water is cheaper
 
Look at this way, sure at first it's expensive to purchase. But you will never have change the coolant for the life of car or engine, that will pay for it's self over a few years in the amount money that will be saved. I'm quite happy to do a long term test and report back with video. Keep you guys posted ;)
 
the point remains the same though - there is no benefit to this over water in the B series engine. Corrosion is not a problem if you mix the coolant correctly and change it as you should.

The only thing your going to get with this coolant is heat soak, i would say spend the money one something else.
 
alEKs said:
the point remains the same though - there is no benefit to this over water in the B series engine. Corrosion is not a problem if you mix the coolant correctly and change it as you should.


The only thing your going to get with this coolant is heat soak, i would say spend the money one something else.
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Ignoring the benefit that you never have to change it again, I agree :)
 
The only downside to it is the price really. Other than that, It's a good product with benefits.
 
You'll need to drain every last drop of coolant out as well. Probably more ideal for someone who has a fresh engine.
 
What happens if you need to change your radiator or you get a leak? Can you buy smaller bottles of the stuff? So you can top the systom up if need be?
 
As said,
I can't see any benefits.
It won't cool as well as water based stuff either.
It's just hassle and money just to do something different for the sake of it, IMO.
 
D17KDB said:
What happens if you need to change your radiator or you get a leak? Can you buy smaller bottles of the stuff? So you can top the systom up if need be?
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This raises and interesting point

Also what happens if you want to sell on engine or cooling system parts after your done with them.

No one will buy second hand engine parts or rads / coolers that have been used with this stuff.

Well i wouldn't
 
alEKs said:
This raises and interesting point

Also what happens if you want to sell on engine or cooling system parts after your done with them.

No one will buy second hand engine parts or rads / coolers that have been used with this stuff.

Well i wouldn't
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Why? That's just silly...

If you need to drain the cooling system then you simply drain it into a clean container and reuse it. They do sell small containers of it also.... People also need to remember that this stuff won't pressurize the cooling systerm so there is less strain on the seals.
 
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