Cheap turbo kit, what do you think?


Lmao, probably right there. Cant believe the asking price though considering they're more on ebay.
 
This is from my mates civic. I can vouch for the seller as he is a top bloke. kit looks as good as new. He only test fitted the kit on the car but decided to get a new toy so this had to go.

Oli
 
If this was up a few months ago, I would have had this! Prob could bet that the only problem with this would be the turbo, if it was an cheap eBay one. Replace it for a proper one and your good.
 
Why? So if you spend £300 on something that instantly breaks it's a bargain. All eBay Turbo kit's are **** and this looks just like one There's no such thing as a bargain in this game. You get what you pay for..
 
Not at are **** at all!!

The parts to worry about are the turbo and the manifold.

As long as the manifolds are braced they work! And as long as the turbos are balanced they also work! So what is the main issue?

Pipe work is pipe work. Intercooler is an intercooler.

Why would it break instantly?? Bad maps break turbos easily. A big misconception about turbo kits around Honda scene.

Granted it's not a 2k kit. But whos to say it's rubbish just because it's cheap??
 
So what if they are balanced? That's only part of the picture.... Bearing design, internal clearances, quality of metals, ect... need to be considered to as these can be failure points.

Even if the manifolds are braced they can still fail. There ****, they use the cheapest and most thin stainless they can get away with. By all means, some are lucky (probably around 2%) but most people just have problem after problem. This is where the "misconception " is as the minority that were lucky seem to think there all OK.

Why would a bad map cause a half decent Turbo to fail?

I say eBay **** is rubbish because it's cheap and I'm right. Cheap Chinese **** is cheap chinese ****. It will never be anything else...
 
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Only thought id post it up as i have never seen a kit this cheap. Despite it being ebay or not :). i know if i had a spare civic lying around this kit would certainly be on it haha! :p
 
Kit is in very condition and the turbo looks brand new when he fitted it. It is a bargain and he didnt even run it in as he bought a subaru instead and didnt have enough funds for mapping and socketing ecu etc
 
It may well be in good condition but this isn't the point. If its your typical eBay **** then it could be brand spanking new and it would still be a heap of ****. On the other hand if there are quality (brand named) parts here then its another story (which I highly doubt).

From what I'm seeing it looks like your typical eBay crap.
 
walle said:
Only thought id post it up as i have never seen a kit this cheap. Despite it being ebay or not :). i know if i had a spare civic lying around this kit would certainly be on it haha! :p
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Please don't say that. It's a shame to throw **** at such a well engineered car... And you don't live that far from me so I may see it and get very depressed :(:)wtf2:
 
Rich777 said:
So what if they are balanced? That's only part of the picture.... Bearing design, internal clearances, quality of metals, ect... need to be considered to as these can be failure points.

Even if the manifolds are braced they can still fail. There ****, they use the cheapest and most thin stainless they can get away with. By all means, some are lucky (probably around 2%) but most people just have problem after problem. This is where the "misconception " is as the minority that were lucky seem to think there all OK.

Why would a bad map cause a half decent Turbo to fail?

I say eBay **** is rubbish because it's cheap and I'm right. Cheap Chinese **** is cheap chinese ****. It will never be anything else...
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Too true, I like the no nonsence approach Rich, say it how it is and no in between.

Your better off with a cast manifold than a **** one made out of tube, if you look at a decent manifold it will be made of pipe, sch 10 etc not tube, hence why all the knock off ones crack.

When that pikey ebay turbo comes apart and the compressor wheel scores your bores damages the pistons valves etc it wont be cheap anymore.
 
Like I said there is no comparing with 2k+ kits. And saying that, i have seen more genuine garrett turbos fail than Chinese replicas.

Also a bad map can cause a turbo to fail, I'm no tuning expert but a very good friend who purely maps cars for a living "not a tuner" he works for rally a team purely mapping cars all over europe has told me time and time after that alot of turbos blow due to bad maps.

For example, he can blow a turbo in a matter of minutes at idle engine speeds.

Don't ask me how, just is what it is.


Not arguing or denying anything that has been said, but for £300 it's alot of fun someone could have for a decent period of time.
 
Nuno@MER said:
Like I said there is no comparing with 2k+ kits. And saying that, i have seen more genuine garrett turbos fail than Chinese replicas.

Now come on now, that's past a joke. All of us that have been in the game for long enough know that something isn't right here. Garrett are one of the BEST turbo manufactures our there and this is the reason why they are chose by so many OEM manufactures... So I take it we'll be seeing more "Chinese turbos " on factory car's in the future then... LOL...

Also a bad map can cause a turbo to fail, I'm no tuning expert but a very good friend who purely maps cars for a living "not a tuner" he works for rally a team purely mapping cars all over europe has told me time and time after that alot of turbos blow due to bad maps.

For example, he can blow a turbo in a matter of minutes at idle engine speeds.

Don't ask me how, just is what it is.

The car's your mate is mapping will be very high power output engines which may see very high exhaust gas temperatures and turbo speeds. These are the only two things I can think of that may cause a turbo to fail due to mapping. On a street car or setup unless you had a monkey for a tuner then it's very rare these kind of failures pop up as generally speaking things aren't pushed to the edge like a all out racer.

A turbo failing at idle down to poor mapping though? Nah, that's beyond a joke unless we're talking about some kind of space age technology which I'm not familiar with.



Not arguing or denying anything that has been said, but for £300 it's alot of fun someone could have for a decent period of time.

So what if the turbo fails and takes the engine out ? What if the oil lines leak all over his/hers expensive block paving drive way? what if if that cheap waste gate doesn't contol boost properly and causes the engine to fail? What if the BOV doesn't open and causes compressor surge or leaks badly? What if that crappy jubilee clip doesn't hold the piping together and the turbo over spins and fails (come on , some of you must have noticed it... lol ) ? It just goes on... These are all typical things people have issue's with which I don't exactly call fun...
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I don't mean to sound a dick. It's just that this **** really irritates me when people try to defend or bull **** about all the cheap **** on the market. It's all ****, and it's very misleading to new user's which may actually fall for it and end up regretting it. There's no "misconception" here, you get what you pay for. Research and development, quality machinery, quality metals, quality educated workers all cost money. Now tell me what China knows about anyone of these?
 
rs250nut said:
Too true, I like the no nonsence approach Rich, say it how it is and no in between.

Your better off with a cast manifold than a **** one made out of tube, if you look at a decent manifold it will be made of pipe, sch 10 etc not tube, hence why all the knock off ones crack.

When that pikey ebay turbo comes apart and the compressor wheel scores your bores damages the pistons valves etc it wont be cheap anymore.
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I was hoping you'd come along and see this.

Anyone else that knows what there on about want to help with this misinformation?
 
Rich777 said:
I was hoping you'd come along and see this.

Anyone else that knows what there on about want to help with this misinformation?
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That's a real dicks comment right there "knows what their on about"

There's no need to help with anything on this thread, I'm sure everyone has got the point of this.

But il remember next time i see a car with a holset turbo etc on it to tell the owner it's **** because it's made in china.

And above is another reason as to why no one in the UK will ever map my cars, is because knowledge in tuning is still very green here.

If you KNEW what you were talking, which sounds like you kinda do, you would should know mapping is more than just AFR's. I told my mate and he lol'd at it tbh.

Also garrett supply plenty of OEM cars for sure, but have you ever heard of lowest bidder??
Because garrett as such a big company that can 1- supply at best price 2- meet deadlines for deliveries.

Garretts blow up so easily, popped one in my Leon 3 weeks ago. Borg warner by far a better manufacturer even when they supplied OE.


Cba to argue, you can have victory but il stand by what I said.

Nuno
 
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