Group buy for cages?


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Am I imagining this, or did somebody start a group buy for a cage? Or was trying to drum up interest.

I may well be making this up haha :wtf:
 
There was talk of it once upon a time I'm sure...

It's a expensive thing for a lot of people to commit to though, as with any group buy people would put there names down then pull out no doubt, it would take a while to organise and there's usually a good few weeks waiting list on cages so you could be waiting a while!

What cage did you want?

This is what I bought

 
As above, pretty sure we had one but didn't work out in the end.
I'd be up for it but as usual it's down to sorting the engine out first.

I suppose if there is any interest you'll find out on this thread soon enough.
 
I have Custom Cages rear half cage on order with birkbeck motorsport (same as above I believe), should be here in a couple of weeks. It takes about 6 weeks from order to delivery as they are made to order in Poland. The price they charged was a good bit cheaper than anyone else and I doubt they can sell them much cheaper even with a group buy. For something like this a group buy will be more hassle than it's worth I reckon, just order one when you're ready!
 
Oifovo is probably right tbh
 
Oh I don't wanna organise one or anything. Couldn't be doing with the hassle!
Just had a vague idea someone mentioned it before :)

Was looking at the safety devices but still unsure if I wanna take that step of no return with it lol
 
Are the bolt in cages worth having? Or is there significant difference with a weld in cage?
 
Not much of a daily when you've got door bars etc.
I was looking at going bolt in this time. Weld in was a pain in the arse.
Although safer I'm not too worried about that lol beats having no cage so long as its MSA approved.
 
Weld in for a full on track car makes sense and I will get there one day, but by then I'll probably have a trailer and won't be even insuring the 9... For a combination of track/road I'd say a good quality bolt in cage is sufficient.
 
Won't be using the 9 daily after this summer. Fuels too bad and my insurance drops massively in October! :)
I just thought weld in is probably better for chassis stiffening.
I'd like a trailer eventually but I think I'll always want it on the road, it's too fun to only enjoy once or twice a month! :D
 
I would trust a bolt over a weld any day.

A weld can look secure but not properly take, whereas you can see if a bolt is tight.
 
I drive this daily, bit of a pain in the beginning but used to it now.

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It's extended through too the front shocks. Had this made too the car and is weld it.
 
JohnTurbo said:
I would trust a bolt over a weld any day.

A weld can look secure but not properly take, whereas you can see if a bolt is tight.
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Bolt in is secured to a welded foot plate so what is the difference really? Proper weld in job with gussets (like the above) will always be FAR stronger than any bolt in cage.
 
Thats a cage and a half.
- but that would be super safe and stiff because of its very elaborate nature and huge number of fixing points.

But taking a simple 6 point cage - one that is assembled under controlled conditions then bolted in will be consistently strong. One that is assembled, welded together and welded in is only as good as the welder. I say this thinking about a couple of examples of welded in seat runners Ive seen in the past that were beyond horrific.
A weld can either not penetrate - or be too hot and weaken the material. In this case the joints will suffer from fatigue over a long period.
You also have to fabricate foot areas to spread the load correctly that are potentially tricky.

So a welded in cage is not inherently better than a bolted in one. Its more complicated than that.
A bolt in cage will never compare to a full rally style weld-in but it will at least be consistent.
 
I like to take the "no half measures" approach to cages. Here's one I'm building at the minute. Far from done, needs a couple more days on it yet.



 
JohnTurbo said:
Thats a cage and a half.
- but that would be super safe and stiff because of its very elaborate nature and huge number of fixing points.

But taking a simple 6 point cage - one that is assembled under controlled conditions then bolted in will be consistently strong. One that is assembled, welded together and welded in is only as good as the welder. I say this thinking about a couple of examples of welded in seat runners Ive seen in the past that were beyond horrific.
A weld can either not penetrate - or be too hot and weaken the material. In this case the joints will suffer from fatigue over a long period.
You also have to fabricate foot areas to spread the load correctly that are potentially tricky.

So a welded in cage is not inherently better than a bolted in one. Its more complicated than that.
A bolt in cage will never compare to a full rally style weld-in but it will at least be consistent.
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I kind of agree with this... I've come across a fair few horror stories myself. I cut out and rebuilt a cage a few months back that was downright scary!









It's concerning that somebody thought that was acceptable!
 
Beetlejuice said:
I kind of agree with this... I've come across a fair few horror stories myself. I cut out and rebuilt a cage a few months back that was downright scary!









It's concerning that somebody thought that was acceptable!
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Holy ****! That's rough. Looks like someone used one of those hobby gasless migs (and had no skills)
 
b16 mini said:
There was talk of it once upon a time I'm sure...

It's a expensive thing for a lot of people to commit to though, as with any group buy people would put there names down then pull out no doubt, it would take a while to organise and there's usually a good few weeks waiting list on cages so you could be waiting a while!

What cage did you want?

This is what I bought

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Is that safety devices? I've just ordered one.

Only really wanted a bit of extra stiffness and a safe way for installing harnesses so they seem really good. Only went for the rear cage though didn't bother with the front bars. May do in the future.
 
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