So after reading up on a bunch old threads I have came to a choice of two coilover systems. I was hoping some people will have some insight on how these two ride and handle so I can come to a conclusion. I'm looking for a set up that can handle the semi-rough back-roads to around 5-10 track days a year. It will be driven daily but I will always be willing to sacrifice ride quality for performance. My two choice's are the Tein Flex or the BC N+. There is not a big price difference between the two but are the Teins worth it to go to the edfc or I'm I being lazy and the BC will do just fine and save me a few bucks for something else? Any help will be great. Thanks
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+N are way too cheaper than TEIN Flex with EDFC. I suppose that teins are more quality products but then you have to consider the rebuilt issue which costs too much for teins.
As for N+ i own them for 7 months now. They handle great. If you combine them with big swaybars i think the result will be even better. Their ride is a bit harsh but you can live with that.
As for N+ i own them for 7 months now. They handle great. If you combine them with big swaybars i think the result will be even better. Their ride is a bit harsh but you can live with that.
The price difference is not that bad. If I went the Tein route I would get the edfc at a later date. Price's are around 989.97 for the N+ with top mounts and 1358.99 for the Teins and top mounts, so thats a 368.03 difference. I plan to beat the snoot out of my car and want something that can handle it and then some. I know they are both great company's but with a small distance in price is it justifiable? I just would not want to pay more for something I can get just as good for a lower price or will I get more with the teins?
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If you do that many trackdays a year, bear in mind that you will want to change the spring rates anyway (each country can come with different rates also), personally I prefer less damping adjustment to more, eg anymore than 5 clicks is too much fussing for me, but some like to have 30 clicks.
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i think that you will have better aftersales service if you go with buddy club. You may want to contact them for service prices etc. You should consider this if you trackday a lot.
My opinion is to choose a road street coilover series with not too softy spring rates(superstreet let's say is too soft) so as not to be ''little'' in occasional track use. You can always have a swaybar tune of course. What swaybar combo are you running?
My opinion is to choose a road street coilover series with not too softy spring rates(superstreet let's say is too soft) so as not to be ''little'' in occasional track use. You can always have a swaybar tune of course. What swaybar combo are you running?
Thanks guys for the fast replays. I used to track my bike a lot but since getting rear ended at 35mph by another bike I'm over two wheels. So I have just started to get my car together. I live about 20 min form the track and I try to shoot for once a month(stress reliever). My car is a stock ex with th MM front sway bar, I have waiting to go on F7 LCA,SPC camber kit, ASR 24mm rear sway, and a 5 lug conversion. I'm trying to get everything together so I just have to do it once. I'm just looking for one that is good for trackdays but not swap springs but also not to stiff for bumpy roads so it handles like ****. The BC are 10k/8k I think and I cant find the Teins but I will look a little more into that.
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the TEINS are softer. If you go with larger swaybars i think BC will do a good job.
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I think you should get PIC Performance coilovers. They are a US based company so if you ever need service (which you probably won't for the time you own the coilovers) they are right there.
They really are the best track/street coilover you can buy for about $1000. pic performance
Go to the information section, and then send the owners a few emails. If you tell them your situation they will tell you exactly what setup you need.
With these, there are 8 levels of rebound dampening adjustment, each identified by a click. Each level if a distinct and even adjustment in speed, and can be seen on a shock dyno. That quality is very rare for dampers in the $1000 range. With some coilovers they may have 32 levels of adjustment, but that is over about the same range as the 8 levels in from the PIC select.
You also get to choose your own spring rates from 6k to 18k, front or rear. What rate you choose really depends on what you value more, street comfort or track prowess. But with the PIC's you can have a pretty high spring rate and still a comfortable ride, as the dampers are matched so well to the spring rates.
They really are the best track/street coilover you can buy for about $1000. pic performance
Go to the information section, and then send the owners a few emails. If you tell them your situation they will tell you exactly what setup you need.
With these, there are 8 levels of rebound dampening adjustment, each identified by a click. Each level if a distinct and even adjustment in speed, and can be seen on a shock dyno. That quality is very rare for dampers in the $1000 range. With some coilovers they may have 32 levels of adjustment, but that is over about the same range as the 8 levels in from the PIC select.
You also get to choose your own spring rates from 6k to 18k, front or rear. What rate you choose really depends on what you value more, street comfort or track prowess. But with the PIC's you can have a pretty high spring rate and still a comfortable ride, as the dampers are matched so well to the spring rates.
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to make it even more complicated have a look at this!
Tein Coilovers Car Performance Parts and Coil Overs Kits Honda Civic
Most of the is in your budget range
And this one
Suspension Package Honda Civic
Tein Coilovers Car Performance Parts and Coil Overs Kits Honda Civic
Most of the is in your budget range
And this one
Suspension Package Honda Civic
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I am running PIC selects on my car, in 10k-f/8k-r. That's a great rate for comfortable and good handling street ride with some track days, but if I were to do it again I would have gone for something stiffer like 10k-f/12k-r, for better use on the track. Remember that most with FWD like an oversteer prone car for the track, and a slight understeer prone setup for the street.
The rates you want really depend on whether or not your prioritize track or street performance. Most who go to the track once or twice are hooked, and then want only the most track worthy setup that they then use on the street with little complaints. For instance something like a 12k-f/14k-r.
But if you find yourself with one or two track days a year and the car has become a daily driving people hauler, you'd be better off with the 10k/8k.
With PIC i could go on an on, they use only the best materials possible for the price. Check out the information section on the site or request a PDF brochure. The customer service over there is superb, I have talked with one of the owners of the company (It's father and son Jim and Al Hung) for hours about coilover setup, build, and suspension theory. So give them a call or shoot an email, tell them what you want from your car and they'll recommend the what you need, even if it's not their coilovers.
Personally, I think the two main coilovers you should consider for the price are PIC select and the classic Koni/Ground control combo, which also has custom spring rates and setups.