B18c conversion or ek9 in 2-3years? What would you do?


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Hey guys. So before i was asking about what i need and to do for a B18c swap. I have an ek3 with a D15z6.

My current options are.

A) If i actually try and save up i will have enough for the B18c and get it fitted by end of March. The whole conversion including all the parts i need and getting it fitted, also a remap. This will set me back about £3k.

B) Since i dont get paid much as i only work part time atm. I wont be able to afford an ek9 till about 2-3 years, also cause my insurance is still bad for those cars.

C) Remap my D15z6 right now, standard power is 113bhp ish, i could spend a few hundred getting a few bits and then £300 for remap. I'd probably get about 140bhp.

D) Save up for upto a year, swap my D15 for a D16 and have it fully forged and turbo it, alot of people in America are running 400bhp turbo D16's. I'd be happy with 250-300bhp ;P

What would you do and why?

Cheers!
 
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If you were going to B18 your EK3 have you upgraded your suspension and brakes etc? Also one thing to think about if you put alot of money into your EK3 and sell it your not going to get much of that money spent back. I'd personally save for the EK9.
 
Spudski said:
If you were going to B18 your EK3 have you upgraded your suspension and brakes etc? Also one thing to think about if you put alot of money into your EK3 and sell it your not going to get much of that money spent back. I'd personally save for the EK9.
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Good thing about ek3's compared to ej9's is my car comes with 262mm brakes and front anti roll bar. So in the meantime i would get better brake pads and i guess i'll just have to brake earlier, and save up until i can afford better discs and pads, and also a rear brake conversion as i have drums. Wouldnt want bigger brakes as mines are perfect fit, any bigger i'd need new wheels.. Besides 96 spec dc2's are also 262mm iirc? So wouldnt be too bad i'd imagine :nono:
 
Sorry but I wouldn't pay £3000 for a b18 conversion, can pick up a dc2 for that money easy.

I'd keep your ek standard for as long as possible and save as much monies as possible.

I've seen b18 swapped ek's go for £3k recently.
 
dhdavectr said:
Sorry but I wouldn't pay £3000 for a b18 conversion, can pick up a dc2 for that money easy.

I'd keep your ek standard for as long as possible and save as much monies as possible.

I've seen b18 swapped ek's go for £3k recently.
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Well maybe not £3000 exact but a few hundred off.. B18c is off my mate and he is selling it to me a lot cheaper than they sell for, its just i need mounts and loom. it should be costing me about £2300 for the engine, loom, mounts and to get it fitted. Its just its better off getting a remap so it runs better which is £300.. Also need a few bits and bobs so i'd reckon about..£2700-800 all in :/
 
Gearbox, shafts etc ?

Add on the price of a decent brake upgrade and you're probably looking at £3500+ ?
 
dhdavectr said:
Gearbox, shafts etc ?

Add on the price of a decent brake upgrade and you're probably looking at £3500+ ?
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Yeah gearbox and everything is included. Its just fitting it being expensive, the guy i was going to get to fit the engine use to charge £600 but due to it being a pain in the backside he now charges £800 to fit it.

But i just asked my uncles mate there and he quoted me alot cheaper. So i could be looking at about £2300 instead all in instead. And my mate who is selling the engine is making me a good offer, i pay half now and then pay monthly. so right now it would cost me about £1600 and to get fitted and the rest i pay monthly..

So including better brake discs n pads and rear brake conversion i'd be looking at under £3000 now.

So what do you think now? :p
 
It's not bad, you could sell your ek and buy one already converted.

If insurance is bad for you on an ek9 it won't be much better on a b18'd ek.
 
dhdavectr said:
It's not bad, you could sell your ek and buy one already converted.

If insurance is bad for you on an ek9 it won't be much better on a b18'd ek.
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So if you were in the position you would just save for another car?

I wouldnt get much for my ek tbh, rust is bad and the rest of the bodywork, i'd get more scrapping it lol. Don't understand how people younger than me have ek9's and just started driving and paying less than my car, im 21 with 2 years no claims :( insurance sucks ass! Rant over lol
 
If the bodywork in your ek isn't very good then yes I'd look at buying another car.

You'd only want to swap the engine into another shell sometime soon if the rust is bad.

You'd be surprised how much ek's go for as cheap winter runabouts.
 
I think it really depends on what your priorities are. Is it:

-The Modifying Experience? Get the B18 and continue enjoying modifying he EK3 bit by bit to what you want it to be.

-Owning a real type R? Save up for it, it will be worth it and a great base to add more performance. Factor in the cost of insurance etc as well

I would say no point spending lots of money trying to get more power from the D15, you would have to spend a lot to get half decent NA power from it. However, you can spend small amounts of money on bolt-ons to get better response.

I think the Turbo route on a D16, although interesting, the cost of building the engine to take the turbo would be quite a lot. Have you thought about extra high octane fuel, tyre and maintenance costs for this setup?

Overall, if you want to modify the EK3 extensively then go with the B18 option (A) for now. Otherwise option C until you can do option B :D
 
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Why would you want to spend all that money on a car that's rotting..?..would you not be better tidying it up then do the conversion..also ino allot of young people do it but if you modify you car and don't declare it and your in a accident your insurance will be void so not a good idea..
 
Invest the money your going to put into engine swap, and sell the car,

Buy a dc2 or ek9

Both can be picked up so cheap now
 
I would use the 3k to do the b18 swap and buy a teg even if its a ukdm one. It will always be a much better car to the ek with type r heritage so will hold its money etc. Or save for a ek9 but if your impatient just carry on modding the ek, maybe just do a b16 swap to keep you happy intil you can agford a nine.
 
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