yeh i done a search before i posted and found that thread, but my wheels (not ek9 ones) are originally two colours, black/dark-gunmetal-ish and yellow, the previous owner decided it will be a good idea to spray them all black (i guess cos the paint was chipping?)... so they are totally black atm, plus there is kurbing and paint has started to fall off so ideally it needs a good refurb, will try n get pics of what it would look like originally but its difficult to find as its not bery popular