ostrich ecu?


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KEVTI

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Hi guys, i have been offerd an ostrich ecu with a moats data logger. Has anyone used one of these before ? If so whT are they like ? I have never heard of one personally so wanted people veiws.

Thanks
 
Ostrich isn't an ecu it's an emulator I think.

Pretty sure you'll still need tuning software like Crome pro or ectune as the ostrich allows you to alter your map as you go.
 
Ok so what is the ecu then ? I really dont have a clue about this so your help is really appreciated. Is this ecu a complete replacement for my ecu like the hondata s300 ? Can the two ecus even be compaired to eachother ? i did look on the website murry but to be honest i didnt really know what i was looking at lol i will have a better look at lunch.

Cheers
 
In relatively simple terms you can group honda ECUs for B and D series engines into 2 types:

OBD1 and OBD2 (On Board Diagnostic Version 1 and 2)

OBD1 is everything from about '92 to '96 and OBD2 from '96ish on, there are 2 versions of OBD2 (a and b) but we are more interested in OBD1.

The Code in the ECUs is 99% the same between OBD1 and 2 so to a point they are interchangeable, its pretty simple with a wiring conversion harness to put an OBD1 ECU into and OBD2 car. The clever bit of the P28/P30 and similar ECUs is honda put a reserve part on the ECU so you could add a chip with a custom map on there. No idea why they did this but it makes chipping them awfully easy and incredibly flexible.

So the cheapest option is to take your P28 or P30 ecu (you can use many different ecus as they are a common board, even the P06 from the non vtec d series works, you add the vtec circuitry to the board and enable it with the programmable chip), and just add a programmable chip, then get your local tuning company to write you a suitable map on there (you can tune on a rolling road and get it all spot on).

the next step is to use something like the ostrich. the ostrich plugs into the ECU where the new chip would be and uses your computer to emulate what the chip does, once you have your map sorted on the ostrich and computer you can burn a chip.

The Hondata and Moates Demon are a chip emulator like the ostrich, but they will save the map on the unit in the ECU, you only have to plug your computer in to make changes, they also datalog and have extra inputs and outputs.

Does that help?
 
Puggie said:
In relatively simple terms you can group honda ECUs for B and D series engines into 2 types:

OBD1 and OBD2 (On Board Diagnostic Version 1 and 2)

OBD1 is everything from about '92 to '96 and OBD2 from '96ish on, there are 2 versions of OBD2 (a and b) but we are more interested in OBD1.

The Code in the ECUs is 99% the same between OBD1 and 2 so to a point they are interchangeable, its pretty simple with a wiring conversion harness to put an OBD1 ECU into and OBD2 car. The clever bit of the P28/P30 and similar ECUs is honda put a reserve part on the ECU so you could add a chip with a custom map on there. No idea why they did this but it makes chipping them awfully easy and incredibly flexible.

So the cheapest option is to take your P28 or P30 ecu (you can use many different ecus as they are a common board, even the P06 from the non vtec d series works, you add the vtec circuitry to the board and enable it with the programmable chip), and just add a programmable chip, then get your local tuning company to write you a suitable map on there (you can tune on a rolling road and get it all spot on).

the next step is to use something like the ostrich. the ostrich plugs into the ECU where the new chip would be and uses your computer to emulate what the chip does, once you have your map sorted on the ostrich and computer you can burn a chip.

The Hondata and Moates Demon are a chip emulator like the ostrich, but they will save the map on the unit in the ECU, you only have to plug your computer in to make changes, they also datalog and have extra inputs and outputs.

Does that help?
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awsome mate, great help! Makes it alot clearer on what it actually is. One thing im still not sure about though is weather i would have to get a chip written and solder it into the ecu to hold the map? I am buying it second hand so i guess it will already have a chip solderd in.

Cheers
 
Puggie said:
the next step is to use something like the ostrich. the ostrich plugs into the ECU where the new chip would be and uses your computer to emulate what the chip does, once you have your map sorted on the ostrich and computer you can burn a chip.

The Hondata and Moates Demon are a chip emulator like the ostrich, but they will save the map on the unit in the ECU, you only have to plug your computer in to make changes, they also datalog and have extra inputs and outputs.

Does that help?
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You can leave the ostrich plugged in to the ecu, but its not recommended unless you save a copy of the map to your computer.

Kev,
The chip wont be soldered in, the ecu will now have a socket that you plug the chip into.
 
Murray said:
You can leave the ostrich plugged in to the ecu, but its not recommended unless you save a copy of the map to your computer.

Kev,
The chip wont be soldered in, the ecu will now have a socket that you plug the chip into.
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oh i see, ok so if i left the ostrich in but saved a copy of the map on my comp then that would be fine ye ? Would i be able to rewrite the cip that is in it already with a new map ?

Do you know what kind of things you can do on it in comparison to the s300 like launch control, flat shifting, vtec controll ect ?

Cheers
 
Yeah it would be fine.
Some chips can be rewritten some cant. Depends whats in there.

Features all depend on the tuning software used. The ostrich is only an emulator. So you will need to use the likes of Chrome etc.
 
Murray said:
Yeah it would be fine.
Some chips can be rewritten some cant. Depends whats in there.

Features all depend on the tuning software used. The ostrich is only an emulator. So you will need to use the likes of Chrome etc.
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sounding abit stupid but what exactly is an emulator and what does it mean ? I have crome on my computer so i will use that when it comes to mapping ect. Im just trying to get an idea of how it works ect so when i get it i can install it with a basemap.

Cheers
 
I'm pretty sure you'll need to buy Crome pro if you want to do live mapping.
 
dhdavectr said:
I'm pretty sure you'll need to buy Crome pro if you want to do live mapping.
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so how can i get crome pro ? I have the normal one which i downloaded off pgmfi.org. Also what is the difference between the two ? Cheers
 
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