SPOON ECU!!! It actually works!
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Can we meet up so i can try your final drive out? I read you have a 4.785?
Alright, then I assume you're in for a bit of donating to compare the ECU'?Who would want to contribute to it? If we could get 10-15 persons, then it won't cost that much.
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I like this idea.
SPOON BABY SPOON!
They spent hours and hours tuning the ECU on track.
I ran my B16b on a Spoon ECU and the difference over the stock ECU was night and day. After putting the stock ECU big in, the car felt flat and was IMO boring to drive.
I think everyone knows Hondata, ECtune, Crome etc are all better but there dear to buy and need to spend time on fitting them and tuning them up.
I don't think you can argue the fact that you can buy a Spoon ECU over the net for as little as £300 - £400 have it delivered in 2 days and when it arrives spend 10mins fitting it, start the car up and off you go. Jamming!
I think everyone knows Hondata, ECtune, Crome etc are all better but there dear to buy and need to spend time on fitting them and tuning them up.
I don't think you can argue the fact that you can buy a Spoon ECU over the net for as little as £300 - £400 have it delivered in 2 days and when it arrives spend 10mins fitting it, start the car up and off you go. Jamming!
I most certainly can back up that the spoon ecu is generic, What else can it be? Its 1 ecu for 1 type of car and 1 engine but for a wide range of bolt ons. as apposed to having the ecu tuned for each individual mod per car. Thus the ECU has a Generic tune on it to suit a wide range, the tune is set slightly rich to suit the difference in vehicles and the ignition map will be very broad again to suit different set ups.
For example 5% more igntion and 5% more fuel will generally "feel" better to drive with. Smoothing the vtec point is generally down to the fact that Honda from the factory tuned in a little kick as a selling point. the fuel and ignition were slightly off set to the actually vtec cross over.
The tune supplied on the Spoon ecu will more than likely be set up and tested on a certain set of mods (if any) if your using the exact same parts then the ecu will be very good. deviate from the set up and it wont be as optimum.
Dunsy
We (DNR Performance Engineering) charge £150 for our road tunes and £300 for dyno tuning. Our Hourly charge is £30 so £150 for a road tune allows for wear and tear on the equipment and my time to tune the car. I can usually street tune a car with in 2-3 hours very easily tuning in real time makes a big difference.
£400 to me seems alot for "tuned" stock replacement ecu.
But then im used to £80 - P28's socketed ready to go and our tuning charge.
For example we could supply all parts for a obd1 conversion (inc a socketed ecu) and street tune a EK9 for £400 quite easy.
Please dont think im trying to start an argument I was just giving my advice/opinion on the subject.
At the end of the day if your happy with the price and set up etc thats all that matters.
Daz
For example 5% more igntion and 5% more fuel will generally "feel" better to drive with. Smoothing the vtec point is generally down to the fact that Honda from the factory tuned in a little kick as a selling point. the fuel and ignition were slightly off set to the actually vtec cross over.
The tune supplied on the Spoon ecu will more than likely be set up and tested on a certain set of mods (if any) if your using the exact same parts then the ecu will be very good. deviate from the set up and it wont be as optimum.
Dunsy
We (DNR Performance Engineering) charge £150 for our road tunes and £300 for dyno tuning. Our Hourly charge is £30 so £150 for a road tune allows for wear and tear on the equipment and my time to tune the car. I can usually street tune a car with in 2-3 hours very easily tuning in real time makes a big difference.
£400 to me seems alot for "tuned" stock replacement ecu.
But then im used to £80 - P28's socketed ready to go and our tuning charge.
For example we could supply all parts for a obd1 conversion (inc a socketed ecu) and street tune a EK9 for £400 quite easy.
Please dont think im trying to start an argument I was just giving my advice/opinion on the subject.
At the end of the day if your happy with the price and set up etc thats all that matters.
Daz
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Can we meet up so i can try your final drive out? I I like this idea.
Seems like noone else doe though
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I ment back this bit up??? LOL
Totally agree thanks for your input.
See all my parts are spoon except my manifold which is Mugen. I totally agree with what your saying and value your input. Its very important to the EK9.org community. It all helps!
Seems like noone else doe though
LOL blood out of a stone me thinks.
Very interesting. Can you share your experience further? I'm looking to change it for daily driver and Nurburgring. I was set on a 4.9 but have temporarily settled on the 4.7. In fear of it being to extreme. Do you have any videos?
Thanks Ian
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Good man
This will be interesting, i can provide a Prefacelift Spoon ECU for this if need be, mine is currently out of the car.
As long as it was returned to me after
If you look in the new members section at my pot, there is a vid of my crx with the 4.9fd in destroying an evo you can get a rough idea of the acceleration from that.
I have tested Spoon/mugen/feels/jun generic set ups in the past and they all have more aggressive ignition, and all add more fuel.
They have to add more fuel as a safety measure, as i said not every car is going to be the same so they need to have a safety measure in there just in case 1 car should run leaner. Its not a bad thing by any means, i would rather have a rich set up than lean.
Daz
I have tested Spoon/mugen/feels/jun generic set ups in the past and they all have more aggressive ignition, and all add more fuel.
They have to add more fuel as a safety measure, as i said not every car is going to be the same so they need to have a safety measure in there just in case 1 car should run leaner. Its not a bad thing by any means, i would rather have a rich set up than lean.
Daz
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You're only gonna do it with the Spoon ECU I presume?
a friend of mine gine me a spoon ecu from his integra dc2( obd2a p73).. can i use it to my ek4 (obd2b p2t) with a converter???? he told that works at b18 AND b16 engine.. is it true??? thanks for your time...
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Good man
This will be interesting, i can provide a Prefacelift Spoon ECU for this if need be, mine is currently out of the car.
As long as it was returned to me after
It would be! But I'd also need a totally stock EK9 to test on.
Can you post the dyno prints showing the datalogged ignition values at full throttle on a run please. I'm VERY interested to what ignition timing values youve logged with them. Especially the spoon ecu were talking about on here.
yeah just the spoon ecu as i dont have the original ecu
We cant tell anything without a direct comparison.
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I currently have a b18c, a spoon ecu and an OEM ecu. Once the b18 is in my car I will get the car dynoed with both ecus
never knew you were doing this! 