B16b lost to a gsr?


Yes I think that we both learned the hard way that the generic ECU's are useless! I only ran mine for a couple of weeks and then sold it on because I was going to stroke my engine but later decided not to because my b16b is very healthy. I thought that my car would run well with the spoon ECU due to the fact that it was tuned around an ek9 with spoon bolt-ons and my ek9 had a spoon n1, decat, spoon manifold, large throttle body and oem airbox with drop-in and resonator removed when I used the spoon ecu:angry:

As you have said tho and its true that every engine is different, another factor might be that in Japan where the spoon programme was designed they have 100 octane fuel:nerv:


Im also on the look out for an Apexi stand alone ecu so that I can have my car properly mapped:nice: Although with the mods that I have carefully chosen so far my car definitally goes a fair bit better than when it was standard.
Raced a few civics at our Irish drag racing championship here and won my class, one of the other drivers told me that he had raced a few other b16b ek9s and none of them went like mine so I have done something right or its just a healthy engine
 
Ok sorry if im about to sound like a real newb .. Lol .. But when u say programable ecu .. Is that those stock ecus that are "chipped .and ready for programming ?" . Again . Sorry if im sounding like a newb don't tear me a new one for this I've always used stock ecu lol ..
 
Ok sorry if im about to sound like a real newb .. Lol .. But when u say programable ecu .. Is that those stock ecus that are "chipped .and ready for programming ?"

The ones that always say hondata and other tuning compatible and stuff ? ..im really lost on this

. Again . Sorry if im sounding like a newb don't tear me a new one for this I've always used stock ecu lol ..
 
Ok sorry if im about to sound like a real newb .. Lol .. But when u say programable ecu .. Is that those stock ecus that are "chipped .and ready for programming ?"

The ones that always say hondata and other tuning compatible and stuff ? ..im really lost on this

. Again . Sorry if im sounding like a newb don't tear me a new one for this I've always used stock ecu lol ..

Yes...you got it...
Hondata is one of many out there that are programmable. I use Hondata; S300 model, which is OEM ECU [ECM] with a programmable chip which allows programing of many of the stock parameters via laptop and USB connection [as well as NEW non-stock parameters -- boost, NOS and so on...].

A valuable tool to say the least.
 
In reality, and most people aint going to like what I say but... generic ecus are the worst piece of **** i've ever invested on my cars.

This includes all the famous brands such as Mugen, Spoon, Js, etc etc. My stock ECU had better all round performance. Those generic ecus showed some weird ass power curve... like retarded. Locals in AU have tuned K-Pros vs Mugen K20a generic ECU($1100) and whooped its ass!

Ever since my PFC tune, I gained 30whp mid range and 24whp top end. This really made all my expensive mods like Toda headers, custom variable diameter cat back, intake etc really shine out!

Before the tune, I was at the edge of ditching my B16B, I was thinking "wtf is wrong with it? I got all the best **** on it!" and bought a monster fully built inside-out K20a which was tuned by Hondata owner in USA. This engine now sits inside my garage with all the SMSP headers, exhuast etc etc. 260whp on 2.0L N/A doesnt sound to shabby eh?

But ever since the tune, I'm quite happy with the B16B and will continue to tune it with mild cams and gearing on the list. Having owned a stock DC2R and modded DC5R all at once, you guys wouldnt understand how bad the B16B felt in comparison.

:nice:
 
Wow .. I feel like a dick now lol .. I had a chipped p28 ready for hondata and other **** and I sold it for $100 with an obd2 to obd1 jumper harness .. What an ass face lol .. Well I got a really good deal on it so it really didn't hurt me .. But damn I shoulda kept it .. Lol
 
Wow .. I feel like a dick now lol .. I had a chipped p28 ready for hondata and other **** and I sold it for $100 with an obd2 to obd1 jumper harness .. What an ass face lol .. Well I got a really good deal on it so it really didn't hurt me .. But damn I shoulda kept it .. Lol

Well, if your a male and you are calling yourself a dick, welcome to the club! lol

Look at it this way, now that you sold your hondata for $100, you can use that money to go towards a $500 Hondata ECU! :) [wait...did I just type that? lol]

I have been using this S300 for years now, first on the d16y8 fully built race engine, then on the b16, and now on the b18c-r. The S300 was and still is my best mod EVER!
 
Well, if your a male and you are calling yourself a dick, welcome to the club! lol

Look at it this way, now that you sold your hondata for $100, you can use that money to go towards a $500 Hondata ECU! :) [wait...did I just type that? lol]

I have been using this S300 for years now, first on the d16y8 fully built race engine, then on the b16, and now on the b18c-r. The S300 was and still is my best mod EVER!

Yes I am male . And I mean that im an idiot for doing so ... and I don't even think I have that 100 anymore .. I used it on the spc camber kit I jus bought lol ..im currently STUCK with a d16y7 lol .. Its pretty neet for having over 200k miles on it lol .. I want to drop a gsr in it .. Jus looking for good prices .. Still shopping lol ..
 
drop in a b18c-r. you will never regret it.

find me a nice low price :))HEHE . im being a little stingy at the moment with the money .. im trying to save up .. only ones ive seen are going for no lower then $4000 :eek: yes im a cheap fella lol im gunna wait till i get that deal that makes me satisfied lol
 
It's time to face the facts.

A modded 1.8 will always make more torque than a 1.6

It's not surprising guys, it's normal.

A b18 non type r fits right in between a b16b and b18cR.

correct me if am wrong but b18c its the jdm integra type-r engine....
 
correct me if am wrong but b18c its the jdm integra type-r engine....

Theres so many types of B18C, mainly due to the codes that vary in each country.

In Japan, its just 'B18C' Code for the JDM Type R engine.
In USA, its B18C5
In AU/UK, its B18C7

Then theres other non-type R B18 codes like B18C1 etc. These are still putting out 100hp per litre in stock trim(180hp). Just under the Type R.

This thread was basically talking about how a modded B18 non-type R beat a B16B.
 
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