Fitting a ITR intake and 70mm TB


ijwhiteman

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Is this easy enough to do or will i require a garage to do it. I'm fairly clued up and i'm a engineer for a living but my question is will it take any ****ing about or is it a direct bolt on bolt off.

Cheers Ian
 
ye its just bolt on bolt off. easy job to do good luck. keep us posted with some pics when doing the job
 
What kind of car do you have, because I don't know if you mean intake tube+airbox or intake manifold. Those are two different stories.
 
Dino-Spumoni said:
What kind of car do you have, because I don't know if you mean intake tube+airbox or intake manifold. Those are two different stories.
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Surely he means Intake manifold when also talking about the throttle body.
 
Dino-Spumoni said:
What kind of car do you have, because I don't know if you mean intake tube+airbox or intake manifold. Those are two different stories.
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sorry mate it is the intake manifold.

I have a ek4 B16.

Spec to date not all fitted/ordered yet lol

16" Rotas (curbed badly by preious owner will be machining these out nxt sat)
EP3 type R Seats
FK coilovers
JDM wind deflectors
EK9 gear gaitor
EK9 gear Knob
EK9 front and rear splitter
EK9 Grill
Stripped out rear saving 30kg at present (lol all helps)
Upper rear strut brace (to be fitted)
Upper front strut brace
Lower rear tie bar
Spoon N1 (to be fitted)
Spoon B pipe (to be ordered)
Spoon panel Filter (with mods to box to make cold air)
Spoon Carbon intake arm (to be ordered)
Spoon socks lol (to be fitted)
Spoon carbon spoiler
4-1 manifold (to be fitted)
2 1/4" decat (to be fitted)
Aluminium oil filler cap
99-00 spec rear lights
Clear side repeaters
HIDs (not working at present)
Tinted windows
JDM 12*6 plates
Spoon door stickers
ITR intake manifold and TB or 70 mm spoon TB (deciding)

Not doing to badly seeing as i've owned the car 2 weeks.
 
Its very easy, you just be carefull with the sensor plugs, you should have any problems.

Also have a little of grease since the oem ek9 intake is designed to fit a 60 or 62 mm throttle body (I don't remember the exact size) so its going to be difficult to connect the intake to the new 70 mm throttle body, but this can be solved with a little of grease. :D

Also you should check for every detail, any leek there and your car will not work well and will throw a lot of white smoke.

And the most import, be careful with the gasket!!! :nerv:
 
rvm said:
Its very easy, you just be carefull with the sensor plugs, you should have any problems.

Also have a little of grease since the oem ek9 intake is designed to fit a 60 or 62 mm throttle body (I don't remember the exact size) so its going to be difficult to connect the intake to the new 70 mm throttle body, but this can be solved with a little of grease. :D

Also you should check for every detail, any leek there and your car will not work well and will throw a lot of white smoke.

And the most import, be careful with the gasket!!! :nerv:
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I don't have a EK9 intake i'm buying a integra b18c5 intake and may jus get the B18 throttle body aswell so its all direct bolt on. not keen on the idea of sending things away to be machined. hassle. Any one know what the TB bore of a B18 IM is?
 
ijwhiteman said:
I don't have a EK9 intake i'm buying a integra b18c5 intake and may jus get the B18 throttle body aswell so its all direct bolt on. not keen on the idea of sending things away to be machined. hassle. Any one know what the TB bore of a B18 IM is?
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B18C Integra type r, should be 62 mm :wow:
 
jugbugz said:
Why would you want a 70mm TB?
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Yes, I'm curious about this too.

As for the intake manifold, its not just bolt on bolt off. You will have to change injectors, drain at least some of your coolant ect. In my experience, I've found that most things that I think will be simple will be more involved than expected. If you have a guide/writeup on the whole changeover then it's your decision on how easy it will be.
 
Dino-Spumoni said:
Yes, I'm curious about this too.

As for the intake manifold, its not just bolt on bolt off. You will have to change injectors, drain at least some of your coolant ect. In my experience, I've found that most things that I think will be simple will be more involved than expected. If you have a guide/writeup on the whole changeover then it's your decision on how easy it will be.
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i read an article by spoon recommending

There cat back, manifold, decat, panel filter, intake pipe, 70mm TB and B18 IM they quoted results of over 190bhp on standard ecu settings.

Is this not a good idea then?
 
any advantage in changing a DC2 intake manifold with the throttle body to my EK9?


i thought the intake manifold is the same?
 
Tmus said:
so the intake manifold on the B18 is larger?
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Yes.

I've now sourced a B18 intake mani and Prelude TB. Should free her up nicely and bring me to the 190 mark.

Just need to sort out fitting.
 
ijwhiteman said:
i read an article by spoon recommending

There cat back, manifold, decat, panel filter, intake pipe, 70mm TB and B18 IM they quoted results of over 190bhp on standard ecu settings.

Is this not a good idea then?
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Do you think you can get 190hp for a B16A with stock cams?

It's not the IM or the TB thats limiting flow, it's the exhuast, intake and then CAMS<------------------------------------------------ Your engine won't flow anymore air through than your cam allows.

Also think about a pump trigger spray. Enlarge the hole on the cap and see how far it pisses out. It means your air flow velocity will be reduced. Increase the pump to suit the larger cap and then it works better.

seriously waste of money here... just spend the money on getting a good exhuast and intake. Think about ECU when you think about CAMS. After CAMS then think about a type R IM, you don't need TB, 60mm is good for 1.6
 
jugbugz said:
Do you think you can get 190hp for a B16A with stock cams?

It's not the IM or the TB thats limiting flow, it's the exhuast, intake and then CAMS<------------------------------------------------ Your engine won't flow anymore air through than your cam allows.

Also think about a pump trigger spray. Enlarge the hole on the cap and see how far it pisses out. It means your air flow velocity will be reduced. Increase the pump to suit the larger cap and then it works better.

seriously waste of money here... just spend the money on getting a good exhuast and intake. Think about ECU when you think about CAMS. After CAMS then think about a type R IM, you don't need TB, 60mm is good for 1.6
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I'm only going on what this spoon artcile said. I've been put off the idea now anyway. I have a decent exhaust and air intake. I'm going to leave it as that for now and drop a B18C5 or Jackson supercharger on it next year.

Thanks for your help though people.
 
Just to add my 2p, I also have this waiting to go onto my engine, Its a Skunk2 PRO manifold (DC2 copy Basicly that i have polished some of the casting lumps out inside) with a SPOON 70mm TB.

I was going to put this on the B16A2 but was advised against this as it wouldnt do much. So I am waiting till the B18C is put in.
Some pics for you.
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James.
 
ijwhiteman said:
sorry mate it is the intake manifold.

I have a ek4 B16.

Spec to date not all fitted/ordered yet lol

16" Rotas (curbed badly by preious owner will be machining these out nxt sat)
EP3 type R Seats
FK coilovers
JDM wind deflectors
EK9 gear gaitor
EK9 gear Knob
EK9 front and rear splitter
EK9 Grill
Stripped out rear saving 30kg at present (lol all helps)
Upper rear strut brace (to be fitted)
Upper front strut brace
Lower rear tie bar
Spoon N1 (to be fitted)
Spoon B pipe (to be ordered)
Spoon panel Filter (with mods to box to make cold air)
Spoon Carbon intake arm (to be ordered)
Spoon socks lol (to be fitted)
Spoon carbon spoiler
4-1 manifold (to be fitted)
2 1/4" decat (to be fitted)
Aluminium oil filler cap
99-00 spec rear lights
Clear side repeaters
HIDs (not working at present)
Tinted windows
JDM 12*6 plates
Spoon door stickers
ITR intake manifold and TB or 70 mm spoon TB (deciding)

Not doing to badly seeing as i've owned the car 2 weeks.
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Did you do all these mods cause that's an impressive list! Where you from?
 
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