ek9 oem vs spoon


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ive only had my 9 3/4 days and im really impressed with the oem brakes, all they have had done are red stuff pads up front and braided lines all round. And cheap apec rear pads :eek:


so Ill be taking it to the ring in 5/6 weeks so how much better are spoon 4 pots ? really needed ?

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I've heard it said that the 'Ring is easy on brakes. They shouldn't be needed at all, but whether you want them is another matter!
 
well last time I went to the ring I took my zr round on these bad boys
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330mm ^^ 4 pots



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in front of that ep3 good ha ^
 
I'm running Spoon brakes on my dc2, I found the braking a bit better than oem. Theres a considerable difference in the weight and then they look the part to.

Get a good pad and you car will stop,Budgetr pads your breaking is going to be terrible.
 
Wilwood Midilite calipers, save yourself the JDM tax and get some lightweight 4pots Ferodo DS2500 pads are only £53 for them too!
 
The calipers are a thing of beauty.. but all they do (apart from being sexy and lighter) is apply even more pressure (more pistons in comparison to stock) - and that's not going to make that much of a difference if you want to improve actual stopping distances using the OEM consumables.

To actually improve the braking performance - I would invest in improved pads, larger diameter (vented/perhaps drilled for improved cooling) rotors, braided/uprated lines and fluid... before I would spend money on the Spoon calipers, though they are super sexy..

Once you have uprated everything, the extra pressure from the extra pistons in say the SPOON calipers should then be more noticable, if you still feel additonal pistons are required.
 
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thanks for all the info so far guys, so what options do I have if i want to keep the 15 alloys I have ? is it just the spoon 4 pots and wilwoods ?


ps how much do the wilwoods cost and ive heard problems with the brackets being made of monkey metal :secret:
 
Pm freaky parts re the brake kit, he'll be able to sort you out.- thinkn youll be looking at 5--600 potentially. The 310mm kit big brake kit can clear some 15" wheel btw

Wilwoods are a lovely kit, when the cars rebuilt ill get to comment on performance :D
 
The 282mm willwood kit fits under OEM EK9 wheels, but not under the UK DC2 wheels.

Brackets are fine, not heard of any issues,I've done 6-8 trackfays with mine plus 10,000 road miles
 
Would have thought the Spoons to be much better than the wilwood 282mm midilite setup. They keep the standard pads which are much bigger than the ones on the wilwoods. (Yes I have just bought some wilwoods, but coulds resist for the price lol). Im even doubting that the 282 wilwood setup will be much of a gain over the performace than the standard calipers as although you will get a more even preasure load you will be using smaller pads so may even out. Biggest advantage is cheaper pads and much lighter setup.

Main advantage of the bigger 298/310mm wilwood superlite kits is the bigger discs will cope with the heat alot better.

Once I get the money I will most likely be trading to some spoon calipers purely for the bigger pads, standard pads much easier to source and standard fitment to the hubs. JDM points are quite irrelevent when you concider the real advantages of having standard fitment 4 pots. I think I will only go up to the 300mm setup if I find the 282's are not enough.

Concidering the likes of Romans Supercharged 500hp K24 Time attack CRX is still running a 282 Spoon setup. Would have thought it plenty for the regular mild tuned road car.
 
I've heard project mu. HC+ are awesome pads

Barry smith who was vtec direct rates then highly with there 6 slot rotors
 
Is pad fitment really an issue with the Wilwoods? Given their semi-universal nature, I'd have though most big names in brakes would produce pads for them, probably as much, of not more of a selection than the OEM pads?
 
It was more the fact if i get stuck with some cooked or fcuked pads I can just go down to the honda dealer or local parts supplier and grab a set off the shelf than to more than likely have to order a set for the wilwoods. Plus would have thought pad size and surface area to favour the OEM pads.
 
Not necessarily, pad size/surface area is not really a defining factor of braking performance. It does affect wear rates and bigger pads can run a bit cooler, but ultimately the effects are going to be minimal. Certainly the wear rates are offset by the fact that Wilwood pads are around half the price of the OEM sizes! :nice:
 
Suppose that is a good point. Forgot the fact I can just stock up on a few spare sets :nice:

Thought bigger surface area would be much better for heat dispersal as it would spread the patch instead of having it concentrated.?
 
Yes it does have an effect for sure, but it's effects on the onset of fade are going to be minimal compared to the difference that bigger or thicker rotors will make. I reckon it could actually benefit road use on more agressive pads by getting heat into them a bit quicker!
 
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