Spoon caliper bleeding problems


Cesare

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Has anyone else had trouble bleeding the brakes after installing spoon calipers?
I've literally bled them a hundred times and the pedal still feels like crap and sinks to the floor once the car is running.

Any hints or tips? Or do these calipers always feel like ****? Lol, Or should I just get a garage to use a pressure bleeder?

Anyone ditched there abs to make bleeding easyer?

Thanks.
 
are you bleeding them while the car is running?
 
I'd always bleed a car with a servo while the engine is running, try it that way. If you had the front brake pipes disconnected for long you may also need to bleed the rear brakes
 
I had the same problem. Even bought a vaccum bleeder with no joy. Drove the car a few times and left it over night, the pedal was spot on! Weird i know but it worked!
 
Took about 4-5 times before I was happy the pedal was solid.

There is a sequence somewhere of order to bleed and how to bleed.
 
Try leaving a heavy weight on the brake pedal for around 24 hours. Remove the brake reservoir cap to allow any air to escape.

Oh don't forget to disconnect your battery lead.
 
you sure air isnt leaking into the system. Which bleed nipples are you using? as the spoon calipers have two on each.
 
One inner is sheared they are my old calipers. Can be bled fine without.

I had issues bleeding too and this was down to process used. We calling TGM and using the manual process they advised.

You also have to bleed furthest away from master cylinder then work to closest.

Left rear, right rear, left front and right front.

It took a few goes.

Also try when bleeding pump pump pump then open nipple with the pedal fully pressed and closed whilst driver holds pedal down. Stops air going back up

pm if you want my number will talk you through what we did.
 
Bleed the calipers again the normal 2 man way with no change to the pedal feel. Then also done the 6 pump hold method with no change neither.

Done what ifr said to try, no change.

Next step is to try what bobbarron said and take it for a drive.

Anyone else got any ideas?
 
If the pedal is "sinking" this would suggest your master cylinder is due a replacement as the seals are no longer retaining pressure.
 
if your pedal is sinking there is a leak somewhere in the system. As said could be a faulty MS. I know some people have had to turn the calipars upside down to get trapped air out of them while pumping.
 
if your pedal is sinking there is a leak somewhere in the system. As said could be a faulty MS. I know some people have had to turn the calipars upside down to get trapped air out of them while pumping.

Could be this... But I know from previous conversations that the MC can blow under the traditional pumping method. :angry:
 
Removed the abs and checked the MC also, no leaks.

Can't see any leaks in the system neither. Fluid is comin out clear with no bubbles. Also tryed rotating the caliper :(
 
After installing and (lots of) bleeding with mine, I still wasn't happy with the pedal feel. I mentioned what I was feeling to the guy I bought them off (super experienced Honda guy), and he jumped into the cabin with a spanner and adjusted the pushrod at the back of the brake pedal. Problem solved!

Turns out it wasn't a soft pedal as such, just that nothing was happening until the pedal was pressed further down than with the OEM calipers, which gave zero confidence with the brakes. By adjusting the pedal it brought the bite and action back up higher in the pedal travel, where you expect it to be.

Don't know if that'll help with yours. Otherwise, they really did benefit from a lot of bleeding in the early days between usage.
 
Spoon calipers are overrated IMO. I had this exact problem, just had to deal with it and smash the brakes extra hard.
 
I have to bleed my wilwoods to many times to give a good pedal but not good as my oem calipers with rock solid pedal.
 
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