solid engine mounts vibrate


RagingAngel said:
there's a reason why they are called torque mounts.

the restrict/limit the motor's "torquing" motion. It's an issue with leverage as those small mounts are at the very bottom/front of the motor which is subject to the most force.

If you've ever removed the torque mounts with only 3 stock mounts in place and ran it on a dyno or even just revved it from the throttle body, you'd see the motion is quite violent and can often affect gear changing ability.

With the mounts that chet has listed above - it is possible to remove the torque mounts because the hardness of the mount is enough to counteract the overall torquing force.

Subsequently, you can also save around 8-10lbs or so by the removal of the steet and cast iron/aluminum mounts attached to the transmission and block respectively.
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RagingAngel is Correct 10 1/2 lbs to be exact :nice:



GTLVR82 said:
I have the 60a version of those and they are awesome. It idles like stock and the engine does NOT move, period.
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i'v used both Hasport , innovative both work awesome no engine wasted movement at all , great investment
 
If i fill up my oem mounts with windo-weld ?
has anyone tryed this ??
 
I have Spoon mounts in my EK9 with polyurethene inserts add and an ETD, it certainly vibrates a bit but doesn't bother me to much when warmed up.

Driving is lovely throttle is so responsive and gear changes are fantastic now such an Improvement.
 
another innovative user here, more vibration as expected, compromise for me
 
ijwhiteman said:
I have Spoon mounts in my EK9 with polyurethene inserts add and an ETD, it certainly vibrates a bit but doesn't bother me to much when warmed up.

Driving is lovely throttle is so responsive and gear changes are fantastic now such an Improvement.
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i did mine with window weld and the results are pretty good responce is better and the car feel's better but are these vibrations dangerous for the motor/tranny etc ??:nerv::nerv:
 
abunai888 said:
i did mine with window weld and the results are pretty good responce is better and the car feel's better but are these vibrations dangerous for the motor/tranny etc ??:nerv::nerv:
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I wouldn't worry about the vibrations.....
 
I run 75A innovative mounts with the lower torque mounts removed.....

Vibrations are wild, driving along normally you can just see a blurry mess out the rear view mirror :nerv:

Although as said, gearchanges feel super crisp (got mugen shift bushes also), gets the power down so well, even with the ORC single plate clutch which bites like nothing else there is no wheel hop at all

It's a comprimise of some comfort but they are on another level to spoon mounts performace wise, response is so good, once you've ran spoons for a bit they bed in to an oem feel to be honest!!!
 
Steven, you should try the 60A inserts. still a class above the spoon ones but without that mirror vibrations. I used them for quite a while till I snapped a mount. Theyre very good.
 
EK9turbo said:
Steven, you should try the 60A inserts. still a class above the spoon ones but without that mirror vibrations. I used them for quite a while till I snapped a mount. Theyre very good.
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Too much power me thinks! :nerv:

Is it safe to remove the lower torque mounts even running the 60A? Also how hard are these, lots more vibration than OEM?

Josh..
 
JoSh said:
Too much power me thinks! :nerv:

Is it safe to remove the lower torque mounts even running the 60A? Also how hard are these, lots more vibration than OEM?

Josh..
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Yes, you should remove those front lower torque mounts (X2) if you have after market billet mounts. As these will no longer serve a purpose as they did with OEM mounts in place.
 
JoSh said:
Too much power me thinks! :nerv:

Is it safe to remove the lower torque mounts even running the 60A? Also how hard are these, lots more vibration than OEM?

Josh..
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60A inserts will handle a 350hp turbo motor no problem. Its when you push it to around 400-425bhp you have too much flex and will endup damaging one or two of the mounts. Theyre really good. 75A otherwise for a higher power motor that is still used on the street. Above that shouldnt be bothered with unless its for competition use as the vibrations get real annoying and it kind-of take a bit away from the ride. This is all from experience with my own and customers cars
 
EK9turbo said:
60A inserts will handle a 350hp turbo motor no problem. Its when you push it to around 400-425bhp you have too much flex and will endup damaging one or two of the mounts. Theyre really good. 75A otherwise for a higher power motor that is still used on the street.
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I would imagine that if anybody wanted a more "civil" 425bhp monster on the street, one might be able to get away with the 60A inserts PLUS the factory torque mounts?
 
defintely agree there RA, that would work but would need better torque mount inserts than the stock ones as itll just tear OEM in no time on 60A's with this level of power. also.. when you change up to 75A your dash WILL vibrate slightly. where-as it just doesnt with 60A's.
 
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