I know there is a LOT of info on the internet obviously but also there is a lot of **** on the internet too lol. Just a quick look on egay etc and these engine's are going for less than £1500, that's less or the same as a B18C, why would anyone bother upgrading to a B18C now? There also seems to be a lot of talk about bhp figures, are the standard engine's really that restrictive? Seems Honda could have released a car with 230bhp quite easily unless I'm missing something? What sort of power do these engines make with subtle mods?