First turbo build...


robthedoc

robthedoc

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Hi guys

I'm planning to turbo my ek9 over the easter holidays and have a couple questions I hope someone can shed some light on.

The car will be using stock internals (b16b) for the time being. Its a weekend toy rather than a daily and will hopefully see the track a few times this year. However I want to make strong power but maintain reliability. Ultimately a fully built b18 will be going in but I'd like to do the turbo build now. ECU is away having s300 installed just now and I have 550cc injectors to go in.

I'm looking at using a Sheepy Inc T3 ramhorn manifold with tial 44mm ewg and Garrett GT2871r turbo with t3 exhaust housing.

Firstly how does this set up sound to you guys? Any advise or experience would be really appreciated.

Secondly exhaust housing is available with two A/R options .63 and .86 which of these would be more usable on the b16b build?

Really want to start ordering some parts this week so any input would be great.
 
I'd just buy the complete turbo kit from go autoworks in amarica great kits I've got 1 Jesse has n a few others as for the b16b you will only be able to run low boost as in 250-260 I would say due to compression I'm running a b18cr engine running 280 so I'm in same boat at the moment but will be building it soon
 
Nice one man thanks for your input. Just checked them out. They look amazing. Good value too. What kit do you have?
 
robthedoc said:
Hi guys

I'm planning to turbo my ek9 over the easter holidays and have a couple questions I hope someone can shed some light on.

The car will be using stock internals (b16b) for the time being. Its a weekend toy rather than a daily and will hopefully see the track a few times this year. However I want to make strong power but maintain reliability. Ultimately a fully built b18 will be going in but I'd like to do the turbo build now. ECU is away having s300 installed just now and I have 550cc injectors to go in.

I'm looking at using a Sheepy Inc T3 ramhorn manifold with tial 44mm ewg and Garrett GT2871r turbo with t3 exhaust housing. Good combination of parts but unless your talking Easter 2016 forget ordering parts from Sheepey. One customer of mine was waiting 6 months for his turbo kit from Sheepey.

Firstly how does this set up sound to you guys? Any advise or experience would be really appreciated.

Secondly exhaust housing is available with two A/R options .63 and .86 which of these would be more usable on the b16b build? For the b16b i'd go with .63 A/R housing.

Really want to start ordering some parts this week so any input would be great.
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See above.
 
Thanks for that mate. On the back of what adamek9 said I'm kind of swaying towards the go autoworks. Have messaged them and they can have a kit put together and shipped in 4 weeks.
 
They are great to deal with aswell and we'll made mine is the street kit with a custom turbonetics turbo 400 bhp same size as a gt28 buddy
 
If funds allow I would go with the S-Race kit they offer. The Mini ram manifold will flow alot better than the cast manifold that comes in the Street kit.
 
As vtec6000 said, if I was buying again I'd by mini ram or full ram horn manifold with 3" downpipe.

For reliability though the cast manifold is great. The stainless tubular ones have been known to crack, although it's not too common for the go Autoworks ones...
My standard unopened b16b made 280hp at 0.6bar, this is the same turbo as Adams I believe. This is about it for the b16b really, could probably push near 300 on it if you didn't really care about the engine. Would probably handle it as a street car tbh.
 
Thanks for all the help guys. Seems like go autoworks is the way to go. Drawn towards the pro kit as it would tick the boxes for the b18 build later. What's your thoughts? Also if I was to post a pic of the shopping list could anyone advise if I've missed anything?
 
Pro kit it is! Will order it next week but it's 4 to 6 weeks for delivery.
 
I'm running pro kit too with a gt3076R and gt500 backdoor intercooler. Been fine
 
Really dont like my go autoworks kit. Doesnt go together as it should and I've had to buy loads of extra bits that were missing/insufficient
which isnt great when you've spent £3k on a kit plus import fees on top.
 
nicole_ said:
Really dont like my go autoworks kit. Doesnt go together as it should and I've had to buy loads of extra bits that were missing/insufficient
which isnt great when you've spent £3k on a kit plus import fees on top.
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Have you spoken to Greg? What exactly were your problems? I didn't have no problems fitting my pro kit.
 
What sort of problems? Like fittment issues or quality? Ive taken some stuff off the shopping list as some of it comes in the kit, but there's still loads of stuff i need so i'm not expecting the kit to cover everything. But very interested in what your disapointed with. Really dont want to run out of spare cash halfway through the build due to unexpected problems
 
My boost pipes don't match up at all. Which I wouldn't care about if I hadn't paid for a kit specifically for my car.
I've had countless bits missing, half of which they tried to deny was missing so I've given up asking and just had to buy stuff myself. The AN fittings are crap quality and I've already had one snap.
The hardware seems a bit thrown in as an afterthought and I'd upgrade it for piece of mind.
Nothing's labelled, just bags and bags of fittings - and there's no instruction where the stuff they've given you like water lines has been designed to be taken from and the replies I get back are short and blunt, not very helpful.
The quality of my manifold and pipe work is great, but stupid things like not being able to use washers or flanged nuts on some of the mani studs because the weld is too close to the hole is really annoying. And the pipes are no good either if they don't even line up!
If I had my money again I'd buy my mani and turbo off them and sort everything else out myself for sure.
 
robthedoc said:
. Really dont want to run out of spare cash halfway through the build due to unexpected problems
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Also if this a problem I probably wouldn't start - it's inevitable there's going to be things going wrong that you haven't budgeted for. My builds ended up costing me over 3x what I originally wanted to spend lol
 
nicole_ said:
Also if this a problem I probably wouldn't start - it's inevitable there's going to be things going wrong that you haven't budgeted for. My builds ended up costing me over 3x what I originally wanted to spend lol
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This is the advice you need to take.
I'm wayyy over my head if I'm honest but im in too deep to back out now.
Plan was to just run low, safe boost on the b16b and spend a max of around 2k.

A forged block and two oil pumps later im still plowing everything I've got into it trying to make it work.
Don't get me wrong, when it works it's EPIC on track but it's costly and time consuming. Spent easily x3 like nicole has.

Everything sounds like a great idea on paper, but cars just don't work like that from my experience and once you start buying forged parts and fancy turbos your budget soon vanishes lol
 
nicole_ said:
Also if this a problem I probably wouldn't start - it's inevitable there's going to be things going wrong that you haven't budgeted for. My builds ended up costing me over 3x what I originally wanted to spend lol
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jesse888 said:
This is the advice you need to take.

Everything sounds like a great idea on paper, but cars just don't work like that from my experience and once you start buying forged parts and fancy turbos your budget soon vanishes lol
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Totally agree with what your both saying but... I'm committed now lol. The budget for this is a fair size and I don't mean I would scrap the project and break it if it gets too dear. Just want to go into it with my eyes wide open.
 
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