Advanced Driving Techniques


that's because they are, when you watch the promo video's for the EK9 it displays how the brake pedal is closer to the accelerator for ease of heel toe'ing

i use heel toe all the time whenever i use the car, makes downshifting much smoother and just general driving smoother if you are out for a spirited drive. at first it's tricky but just keep trying!!

i can do it comfortably by properly having my foot on the brake and swinging my heel round by 90 degrees :nice:

EK9 brake pedal isnt any closer than your standard civic... they travel down at an angle that brings it closer to the accelerator if thats what you mean. :nice:
 
well, i thought i might add a clip make it easier for others like my self that might not understand what you guys are talking about. ><

watch


YouTube - Ayrton Senna's Driving Technique

sorry couldnt find any ek9 ones ><
 
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what about, my personal favorite, FF Drifting as an advanced driving technique. and I am talking about a true brake drift, not a hand brake drift.
 
what about, my personal favorite, FF Drifting as an advanced driving technique. and I am talking about a true brake drift, not a hand brake drift.

Thats new to me, never heard of it. Any further explanation on how its performed?
 
ok, well iv been heel toeing for like 2 years, and i can do it fine for mild spirited driving, but find it very difficult to master for the all out stuff. over rev, or under brake is usuallly the case. or even worse, over brake!!!sigh

left foot braking;

difficult, my left foot is wrecked, but i can do it, but dont use it all that often, does come in usefull for all out driving and rev matching. someone mentiond practicing up to roundabouts and stuff when its quiet, yeah, thats when i tend to use it most.

alot of the time when im just pootling around il rev match then brake, its complete second nature now, or heel toe if im going a bit faster. heel toeing turbo diesils is very hard, but very rewarding and lots of fun!(preious delivery job hehehehe)

skate shoes;

someone mentioned this, yeah it makes things 10x easier for heel toe, but they lack serious feel, i wear etnies religiously, but if im going out for a drive iv got addidas boxing boots, which are super thin with loads and loads of feel and more support up the ankle, and they were way cheaper than pro driving boots. £60 ^ verses £15.

they are a little harder to do heel toe in, but it gets you into the correct way of doing heel toe. skate shoes made me very lazy and my tecnique a bit unrefined. ie not smooth when all out.


other things iv found usefull are,

anticipating the turn in, really thinking about the line you want to take, and judging how the car is going to react on it. half the battle is the turn in. i try to be very smooth in turning the wheel, but also stay out a little longer, sorta like late apex and start to load up the tyres and rack just before you apply all the lock you need. so your not just ploughing into it.

its obvious what im saying, not to put all xx degrees in at 1/100th of a second, but i found this tecnique of slight loading and very smooth application of the lock makes a world of difference to the way the car turns into the bends and the feedback you get when your there.

lift off;

lifting on inital turrn in or part way through the bend shifts the balance of distribution to the front of the car, making the back slightly lighter. it can help with the rotation of the whole car ie killing off some under steer and getting the balance of the car more to where you want it. i think it works, but if not judged right it can get pretty out of shape pretty fast, which means lots of opposite lock and a lary moment or two.its all about finding that balance.

the key to good driving is smoothness, just being precice and calculated in your actions. satying relaxed is somethng else iv found that makes my driving so much better, the way iv seen people drive when there flustered, well youve all seen it, it speaks for itself.
 
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what about, my personal favorite, FF Drifting as an advanced driving technique. and I am talking about a true brake drift, not a hand brake drift.

Isn't it when you turn into a corner at high speeds, brake (left foot brake) while on the throttle and cause an oversteer?

When it comes to heal and toe when normal driving it doesnt feel right for me cause I usually change gears at low revs basicly when upshifting gears at 2500rpm and usually downshift at 2000 rpm. Heal and toe is for higher revs?

When I am going diving into a corner at full speed and heal and toe it feels smooth so I guess I am not doing anything wrong there :p just at normal driving.
 
I used to H&T on my EK3! But I never really tried to perfect it tho, I just did it for the sake of it! lol!
pedals are perfect for it tho unlike the crappy 206! But I was wondering, does H&T cause any excessive wear to any part of the car? Cos I knew that it was saving the gearbox but I thought it would wear out the clutch more quickly?

Can someone explain how to use left foot braking PROPERLY, (don't just say "brake with ur left foot with ur foot on the gas!") lol
and the effects of using it?
 
Left foot braking shifts weight forward whilst still under power, reducing load on the rear tyres and thus increasing oversteer. Personally I would never reccomend using it on the road unless you are very experienced at it on track. It's is not the kind of technique to be messing about with as an amatuer. I'm sure anyone who has tried it will agree, as you have no muscle memory in you leg for it and so no regulation on the pressure you are applying to the pedal.

As for HT, I do this if the pace is a bit higher, mainly because it sounds f'ckin' ace, but it does also smooth out the gearchanges and reduces weight shift. Seems hard to do at lower revs, due mainly to the lightened flywheel meaning I usually over rev.

No reason for it to cause excessive wear on the car if you do it right, it was infact used to allow you to change gear with out syncros in 'the good ol days'.
 
As for HT, I do this if the pace is a bit higher, mainly because it sounds f'ckin' ace

lol, wot a quote! not for speed, smoothness, balance, but just for the sound!!! awesome!

I have tried LFB before but not dared to do it properly! cos i do feel that it does turn the car better but since my car was quite oversteery anyways, I tend not to try it!

I can't wait til I get my EK next year!! :drive:

my 318 is soooo heavy!

140bhp but probs 40bhp to the ton! lol
 
If you ever owned an automatic and used your left foot to brake then it should be easier to do properly. As Kozy says it takes the load of the rear of your car and while turning at high speeds it causes oversteer. You wouldn't really need to use left foot braking on roads, but if you want to practice you can do it in a wide open road in a straight line, accelerate to 30mph or slower and very lightly press the brake pedal with your left foot adding more pressure if needed.
 
heel and toe,rev matching when shifting down is a standard :)
left foot braking is harder imo but very handy.
 
left foot braking is extremely useful to control excessive understeer and to be faster on the lift off to acceleration. since I had my car, I had to use a differentiated form of toe heel since the brake and throttle pedals are too far off. I try to brake using just the engine brake itself, so just before I downshift I dab slightly on the throttle to do a smoother downshift, but otherwise I have to be faster when using the pedals.

However you realise how effective these tehcniques are when you run a very stiff suspension setup. in a stiff setup the above effects become more responsive and easier to predict.
 
rev matching when shifting down is exactly what it means.
saves gears and syncros :)
heal and toe, but without the braking.
more of a straight line technique to overtake etc
 
look up 'trail braking', i'v done a good bit of racing (not street) and this realy does help the times go down once you get it right
 
It is when you allow yourself to slow down just by using the engine brake from downshifting. very useful especially in time attacks!
 
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