Anyone came across the Hardrace Ver.2 front camber arms?


Apparently according to one member with a dc2 (forgot his name) they are the same. Think his name was James
 
That's a much better idea for adjustment, as said struggle to get to mine before.
Looks like that's the only difference though, tbh I've not adjusted mine since they where set so... Rears I've adjusted but not the front.
 
The trouble with HR camber arms is they weigh, 8 or 9 time more than stock parts maybe more! so if you're just doing it for looks fine but for track i'd think again something out of pressed steal would be a better choice.
 
Hmmmm... That's a valid point actually.

Skunk2 pro series plus are tempting me too! Want these to be as reliable as possible with the amount of complaints about front camber arms. What do they civic cup guys etc... use, anyone know??
 
I use hardrace ver 1.
Not sure they are 8 times heavier, certainly heavier though. Very sturdy design and held with proper bolts not these stupid Allen heads. For durability I'd say the hardrace are the best out there.
 
jesse888 said:
I use hardrace ver 1.
Not sure they are 8 times heavier, certainly heavier though. Very sturdy design and held with proper bolts not these stupid Allen heads. For durability I'd say the hardrace are the best out there.
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They are quality inindeed, For those that wish to run very low then go for skunk2
 
irf said:
They are quality inindeed, For those that wish to run very low then go for skunk2
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I just want reliability & confidence for trackdays/road use/Nurburgring.

Hardrace the answer then?

J's do some, but your talking about £380-400 to the door...
 
I'd defo vote for the hardrace ones mate.
Personally now I've found hardrace I won't use another make, esp for the front camber arms.
It's the 4 proper bolts that sets them apart from the rest tbh.
Allen key heads have been known to either come loose or just snap.
The ball joints and bushes are all good, replacements are cheap enough and available anyway.
Then obviously the metal frame that makes up the arm is very sturdy, like to see one bent tbh lol
 
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Kipper said:
I just want reliability & confidence for trackdays/road use/Nurburgring.

Hardrace the answer then?

J's do some, but your talking about £380-400 to the door...
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Yeah they be perfect for you, As long as you don't tuck the wheel in the arch as the arm will make contact with the turret. Totally agree with jesse though. Replacement parts are easy to get hold of aswell via hardrace uk. Go for it!
 
Kipper said:
I just want reliability & confidence for trackdays/road use/Nurburgring.

Hardrace the answer then?

J's do some, but your talking about £380-400 to the door...
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We've been using Skunk2 all year in our CRX Civic Cup car, they provide maximum clearance and the ball joints have been flawless. We also keep replacements on the shelf too should you need them.

The top of the range are the Pro Series Plus

http://www.tegiwaimports.com/skunk2-pro-series-plus-front-camber-arms-kit-honda-civic-ek.html
 
I have the pro plus and can't flaw them at all! Bigger bush's, bigger balljoint, 12.9 grade Allen bolts are surly the exact same strength as 12.9 hex head? It's not the head that breaks off it's the thread body anyway

They adjust from the top which I don't know is good or bad, I have found it to be a pain but that's the job of the allingment chap,

Balljoints are more expensive but hopefully the added size and beef shouldn't need to buy it for a while.. Only thing I did note is that they arnt that greased inside the boot of the ball but no sweat packing it out yourself
 
It's getting the Allen heads tight aswell.
Just a poor idea IMO
 
I have the skunk 2 pro series on mine and havent had any issues.
 
Mailed hardrace UK about the 'Ver. 2' no response...

Been finding it really difficult to decide as no kit seem's to tick all boxes from in depth research from both US & Europe, They need to withstand some track use as well as road use:

Hardrace:

Pro's: Strength of design, ball joint boot robustness, Proper M8 hex bolts.

Con's: Virtually straight connecting arms restrict clearance of shock tower heavily, Have to be adjusted from top which can be difficult.

Skunk 2 Pro-series:

Pro's: Design is similar to OEM to allow for clearance, Adjust camber from bottom, Ball joint has a plate on top sandwiching the camber arm in aim to prevent slippage.

Con's: Ball joints seem to wear out pretty quickly in some cases due to poor amount of grease on joint/boot design, M6 Allen bolts don't appear to be too tough.
I feel some new 12.9 grade bolts (Personal peace of mind), OEM rubber boot & extra grease in the joint and these could be a winner.

SPC adjustable camber joints:

Pro's: Utilise tried & tested OEM arm, Single large bolt on top, Reputable suspension company - Good quality joints.

Con's: Clearance can be issue due to the height of the setup, Camber adjustment can be limited.

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On a side note, Anyone used the SPC design? I can't seem to find a orginal set of the complete cast alloy arms as they have discontinued for a few years now :((.

***I completely understand I have not personally used either of these products myself and I am not out to slate any products as there are no product out there that is perfect in my opinion.

Any further input/thoughts are appreciated, Also a pic of my car is attached any as a reference to what height I run the car at in regards to potential clearance issues:



Cheers guys!
 
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I would email hardrace Australia as that's where it's made. I think even after shipping and taxes they will still be cheaper than buying from the dealer over here,

Explain that the uk agent didn't respond to you as well
 
Your car looks alittle lower than mine, although I don't get any of the clearance issues on my ek9 I have seen it's effects on a dc2 at the ring.

Actually having said that I have got very slight contact of the arm against the tower, but it's the arms not the face and is a very small amount.
These arms where on the car when I bought it and it was abit lower then.
 
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