Who wouldnt - why have you turbo'd yours if you didnt want extra power???
The B18 loves to be thrashed too - the plus side is with the B18C your going faster which is more fun.
The B18C revs as high as the B16b - its not about the RPM limit though its about when the engine makes its peak power.
B18C makes all of its power around 8000 and the b16b around 8200 - i mean 200rpm of a difference, can you really feel that? i mean considering with the b18c your already using alot more power before the b16b does.
The best sounding honda engine ive heard is Spoons ITR, high revving short geared. Screams more than the B16b.
Never known anyone who would think having more power (not stupid amounts) is not more fun.
Is that assuming that everyone is just after the power i take it ? I prefer the B16B to the B18C anyday of the week. I just love the short stoke charicteristics what the engine has. How it just loves having the complete f*#k thrashed out of it. The sound of it can not be beaten by any other Honda engine out there in my eye's (apart from F1). I just use to love the way how it would scream its bonnet off when those rev's where sky high. This is what makes the B16B what it is to me.
I'v owned a B18C before and dont get me wrong there is a nice bit of power extra power and its a cool build to. But it just didn't seem as much fun to drive to me.
Why would I regret it?
Engine cost me the same as I sold the B16B.
Power is up
Torque is up
Drivability is up
The only reason I can imagine people 'prefer' the B16B over the B18C is due to the power delivery. Because the B16B feels pretty much dead before VTEC, it has a big kick up the ass once VTEC is engaged. There is still a kick from the B18C but not as much..or doesnt feel as much because you are already have access to more torque.
How can an engine that is basically the same as the B16B be worse with more torque, power and 200cc?
But anyway..I'm selling my EK9 so if you want to drive it before I sell it then be quick..or just buy it LOL
Need to get a diesel...my Jap import days are over for now
Hey Rich. Did you notice much difference going from a stock b18c to a fully built b18c? Or were you still not impressed?.
b16b turbo was my first choice. But like I said, insuring a ek9 is pretty much impossible for me i.e. crazy quotes.
So thats why b18c seems to be the next best thing
lol @ buy yours.
I'll deffo be up for driving yours gee if you've still got it at the end of the month?
Would be really good to compare the two
That was just my opinion from my experience of both engines ! ! ! I know theres 1000s of people that prefer the b18c to the B16b that will all probably agree with you i dont give a ****. I was just saying what i liked about the b16b (not everyone thinks like you and has the same taste as you, you know).
The reason i turbo'd mine has nothink at all to do with this. Yeh i wanted more power and to be a bit different and build a turbo b16b not b18c or b16a.
My post was more to open things up a bit and not be aimed at myself !
Is that assuming that everyone is just after the power i take it ? I prefer the B16B to the B18C anyday of the week. I just love the short stoke charicteristics what the engine has. How it just loves having the complete f*#k thrashed out of it. The sound of it can not be beaten by any other Honda engine out there in my eye's (apart from F1). I just use to love the way how it would scream its bonnet off when those rev's where sky high. This is what makes the B16B what it is to me.
I'v owned a B18C before and dont get me wrong there is a nice bit of power extra power and its a cool build to. But it just didn't seem as much fun to drive to me.
Hope i dont offend anyone, thats not the intention. Im just voicing my opinion, strongly.
I cant get myself around the more fun part. I can accept preferences completely but these 2 engines are far too similar only one with more power. The B16B with a spoon ECU has a really smooth changeover, I used to have one. Its not the engine, its the map. You can map both engines to feel more aggressive or smooth.
And a subaru/BMW/350Z etc etc, they are MUCH more torquey then a B18C too. Your not changing your car dramatically, your just adding power and a bit more low down grunt. I dont think that was a great comparison.
If its that ever so slightly more sudden kick on crossover that your into(as thats the only difference on stock maps) and dont care at all about having a faster more competitive car then fair enough. Other then that its soo soo wrong to say a B16B is more fun. As i dont think that makes much sense as they are essentially the same engines.
Hope i dont offend anyone, thats not the intention. Im just voicing my opinion, strongly.
Hope i dont offend anyone, thats not the intention. Im just voicing my opinion, strongly.
Fair points mate and I would never be offended by anyones opinion as we are all diff!
Lets just say ek9's are fun full stop!
yes you have offended me ! how the hell can you say that....... haha na not really dont give a ****, they are both a hoot to drive yeah some people say the extra torque from the 18 is nice and rightly so but see what rambo is saying the 16b is a great engine and as we know pretty much the best 16na engine to date and with the vtec cross being as savage as it is makes it highly addictive, it comes down to a personal opinion we could rant and rant till the end of time but the fact is some people prefer the 16... some the 18