►EK9 Honda Civic Type-R - 4.40 to ATS 4.9 Final Drive - Gear Ratio Speed Comparsion◄

rvm · 07-20-2007, 07:13 PM

Want to install a ATS 4.9 final to your B16B motor?

Check out this speed comparison chart!

This chart was made with a 9000 RPM limit motor.

The 4.40 final drive achieve a max speed of 270.75 km/h in all 5th gears, The 4.929 Final drive achieved a max speed 198.41 km/h in all 5th gears.

Benefits of the 4.9 Final drive:

Fast acceleration, this should be a great final drive at small tracks where you don't go faster than 200 km/h. Great for Autocross events!

Cons

The top speed is REALLY affected by this mod, if you run in a big track you will not have any good results with this final drive.

Conclusion:

It's a great mod for the B16B engine, right now I'm running a 4.78 final drive and I love it, since almost all the tracks have a max speed of like 160 km/h - 200 km/h the top speed problem shouldn't be and issue, I see that you gain more comparing of what you loose.

Anyways I prefer a 4.78 Final drive

blinx9900 · 07-20-2007, 09:02 PM

you can always just get an LS 5th gear, that will give you a longer 5th, with a 4.4 final LS 5th goes to 180+mph with 4.9 should be shorter but not as short as b16b 5th with 4.9.

jugbugz · 08-06-2007, 06:29 PM

Here it is...

rvm · 08-07-2007, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jugbugz

Here it is...

Nice video, you're running a 4.928 final drive right?!?

What brand is it? any comments ?

jugbugz · 08-08-2007, 10:17 AM

hahaha, it's not my video, I found it on youtube...

I think this ratio is way too short though... 4.785 + cams is best...

dwales83 · 08-08-2007, 07:14 PM

is there a comparison with the 4.78 fd? im new to all this

absolutlysideways · 08-08-2007, 08:44 PM

right im deffo going for the 4.928 final drive next week ill post up videos

jugbugz · 08-11-2007, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by absolutlysideways

right im deffo going for the 4.928 final drive next week ill post up videos

??? did you see what gear he was in at 140kmph? don't do it man, 5th gear @100kmph @ around 4500rpm...

just go for big cams + 4.78 or stock 4.4

absolutlysideways · 08-15-2007, 05:50 PM

yea but if i get the ats 4.9 is 1st and 2nd gear and leave standard the rest my top end wont be affected that much surely?

jugbugz · 08-18-2007, 04:30 AM

I noticed that tuners like SPOON and TODA, don't use 4.9fd, They seems to always make the 1st and 2nd gear longer to get more powerband 3rd and 4th is stock and keep either 4.4 or 4.78fd Anyways it depends what you want it to do...

blinx9900 · 08-18-2007, 05:13 AM

spoon sells a 4.84 check out my thread:

►OFFICIAL transmission, LSD, gears, final drive, gearbox upgrade thread!!◄

its got a fun gear calculator at the bottom i think you'll enjoy it jugbugz

jugbugz · 08-25-2007, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blinx9900

spoon sells a 4.84 check out my thread:

►OFFICIAL transmission, LSD, gears, final drive, gearbox upgrade thread!!◄

its got a fun gear calculator at the bottom i think you'll enjoy it jugbugz

That is one cool calculator!!! thanks blinx!

I see that 4.78 + 9000rpm will make a very good 0-62mph(0-100kmph) time

tecque · 04-23-2008, 01:55 PM

Sorry to ask, is EK9 ori engine,gearbox top speed can go up to 270km/h? \and wat the max rpm can a stock 16b up to? some type r can up to 11000rpm, wat modification needed for 11000rpm? Thanks in advance..

adee-ek4 · 04-23-2008, 02:42 PM

to change all you internals but will still e hard to rev it that high and theres no point in reving that high cuz youll have no power that high

jugbugz · 04-23-2008, 02:48 PM

Simply because Fuel self detonates above 9000rpm. You need to run alcohol to ensure you make power above 9500rpm.

07-20-2007, 09:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
blinx9900 333whp 259wtq :) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: socal usa Posts: 10,649	Re: EK9 Honda Civic Type-R - 4.40 to ATS 4.9 Final Drive - Gear Ratio Speed Comparsio you can always just get an LS 5th gear, that will give you a longer 5th, with a 4.4 final LS 5th goes to 180+mph with 4.9 should be shorter but not as short as b16b 5th with 4.9. __________________ I no longer have the time to read every thread. PM me a link to yours if you would like my input and be sure to read the stickies also, there is a wealth of information there

08-06-2007, 06:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
jugbugz 1997 EK9 CTR Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Honda town Posts: 2,712	Re: EK9 Honda Civic Type-R - 4.40 to ATS 4.9 Final Drive - Gear Ratio Speed Comparsio Here it is... __________________ 1997 EK9 Civic Type R with 99-00 facelift. 2001 DC2 Integra Type R (SOLD) 2003 DC5 Integra Type R

08-08-2007, 10:17 AM	#5 (permalink)
jugbugz 1997 EK9 CTR Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Honda town Posts: 2,712	Re: EK9 Honda Civic Type-R - 4.40 to ATS 4.9 Final Drive - Gear Ratio Speed Comparsio hahaha, it's not my video, I found it on youtube... I think this ratio is way too short though... 4.785 + cams is best... __________________ 1997 EK9 Civic Type R with 99-00 facelift. 2001 DC2 Integra Type R (SOLD) 2003 DC5 Integra Type R

08-08-2007, 07:14 PM	#6 (permalink)
dwales83 EK9.org Fan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: south wales Posts: 146	Re: EK9 Honda Civic Type-R - 4.40 to ATS 4.9 Final Drive - Gear Ratio Speed Comparsio is there a comparison with the 4.78 fd? im new to all this

08-08-2007, 08:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
absolutlysideways spoon ek9 Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 452	Re: EK9 Honda Civic Type-R - 4.40 to ATS 4.9 Final Drive - Gear Ratio Speed Comparsio right im deffo going for the 4.928 final drive next week ill post up videos

08-15-2007, 05:50 PM	#9 (permalink)
absolutlysideways spoon ek9 Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 452	Re: EK9 Honda Civic Type-R - 4.40 to ATS 4.9 Final Drive - Gear Ratio Speed Comparsio yea but if i get the ats 4.9 is 1st and 2nd gear and leave standard the rest my top end wont be affected that much surely?

08-18-2007, 04:30 AM	#10 (permalink)
jugbugz 1997 EK9 CTR Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Honda town Posts: 2,712	Re: EK9 Honda Civic Type-R - 4.40 to ATS 4.9 Final Drive - Gear Ratio Speed Comparsio I noticed that tuners like SPOON and TODA, don't use 4.9fd, They seems to always make the 1st and 2nd gear longer to get more powerband 3rd and 4th is stock and keep either 4.4 or 4.78fd Anyways it depends what you want it to do... __________________ 1997 EK9 Civic Type R with 99-00 facelift. 2001 DC2 Integra Type R (SOLD) 2003 DC5 Integra Type R

08-18-2007, 05:13 AM	#11 (permalink)
blinx9900 333whp 259wtq :) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: socal usa Posts: 10,649	Re: EK9 Honda Civic Type-R - 4.40 to ATS 4.9 Final Drive - Gear Ratio Speed Comparsio spoon sells a 4.84 check out my thread: ►OFFICIAL transmission, LSD, gears, final drive, gearbox upgrade thread!!◄ its got a fun gear calculator at the bottom i think you'll enjoy it jugbugz __________________ I no longer have the time to read every thread. PM me a link to yours if you would like my input and be sure to read the stickies also, there is a wealth of information there

04-23-2008, 01:55 PM	#13 (permalink)
tecque EK9.org Fan Join Date: May 2007 Location: K.L - Malaysia Posts: 160	Re: EK9 Honda Civic Type-R - 4.40 to ATS 4.9 Final Drive - Gear Ratio Speed Comparsio Sorry to ask, is EK9 ori engine,gearbox top speed can go up to 270km/h? \and wat the max rpm can a stock 16b up to? some type r can up to 11000rpm, wat modification needed for 11000rpm? Thanks in advance.. Last edited by tecque; 04-23-2008 at 02:24 PM.

04-23-2008, 02:42 PM	#14 (permalink)
adee-ek4 EK9.org Fan Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 455	Re: EK9 Honda Civic Type-R - 4.40 to ATS 4.9 Final Drive - Gear Ratio Speed Comparsio to change all you internals but will still e hard to rev it that high and theres no point in reving that high cuz youll have no power that high

04-23-2008, 02:48 PM	#15 (permalink)
jugbugz 1997 EK9 CTR Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Honda town Posts: 2,712	Re: EK9 Honda Civic Type-R - 4.40 to ATS 4.9 Final Drive - Gear Ratio Speed Comparsio Simply because Fuel self detonates above 9000rpm. You need to run alcohol to ensure you make power above 9500rpm. __________________ 1997 EK9 Civic Type R with 99-00 facelift. 2001 DC2 Integra Type R (SOLD) 2003 DC5 Integra Type R

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