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MFactory Forged Final Drives & Close Gears Information
This information was taken from their official site, hope you find it usefull.
![]() ![]() For those who were interested in the Gear Sets but were not too sure on what sort of performance gains they would achieve, or were wanting to wait till the gears were tested and reviewed for performance and quality, you will be very pleased to hear the following results from the independent tests made on our Close Ratio Gear Sets. The results are via the UK's Leading Independent Honda Club & Magazine, and were subject to both Mettalurgic Analysis and Live Testing: From the Magazine Review Vehicle: B16 Civic 3rd Gear 40-70mph: 22.7% Improvement over stock 4th Gear 40-70mph: 23.3% Improvement over stock 5th Gear 40-70mph: 16.7% Improvement over stock Average Improvement: 21% Improvement over stock on 3rd/4th/5th Gears Tolerance: All within Honda Specifications Quality: As Good/Similar to OEM Honda Gears Results: Much smoother shifting between gears, much improved (and immediately noticeable) acceleration response From the above, you can see that you would gain an average 21% Performance Gain throughout 3rd/4th/5th gears. After installing our gears, you will experience a phenomenal increase in acceleration, albeit sacrificing top-end speed. Kit includes 3rd, 4th and 5th gear (perfect for keeping in the VTEC zone). Specification: 3rd - 1.695 4th - 1.296 or 1.384 (Slight modification required to transmission casing) 5th - 1.000 or 1.130 Price: Only $624.95 shipped for 3rd & 4th Gear, $749.95 shipped for 3rd, 4th and 1.000 5th (extra $50 for 1.130 5th) This has got to be one of the best, if not the best, "bang for buck" modifications out there. There are not a lot of modifications out there that will give you 21% increase in performance for less than US$750. We also have a B-Series 3.070 1st Gear available for those who require a slightly longer 1st, specifically designed for hard launches. As used by several top NHRA SFWD contenders, providing a consistent 0.2sec reduction in 60ft times and proven to withstand 750+ horsepower! Price: Only $249.95 shipped! For those with D15/16 Motors, you are not left out. We also have a Close Ratio Gear Set for your box as well: Specification: 3rd - 1.565 4th - 1.250 (Stock 3rd Gear. Slight modification required) 5th - 1.000 (Slight modification required to transmission casing) Price: Only $624.95 shipped! For the Ultimate in "bang for buck" performance gains, install our Close Ratio Gear Sets along with our range of Final Drive Gears. Nowhere else will you be able to find a performance modification offering such a staggering increase in performance for $1300! Not to mention any strict modification/emissions requirements in place by your local authority. ![]() Like our Close Gears, the MFactory range of Final Drive Gears are Diamond Cut to exacting tolerances from fully Carburized Forged Nickel-Chromoly Steel and put through our own proprietary heat treatment process. Put simply, you will not find a stronger, more reliable product on the market. By changing your final gear ratios, you can experience a dramatic increase in acceleration throughout the rev-range, giving you upto 15% increase in torque at any given speed over the OEM Final Drive. We have two series available for Honda/Acura, depending on your application: Street - Our most popular product, the Street Series are perfect for the "Everyday Driver", yet also suitable for the amateur track/drag enthusiast, being over 30% stronger than the OEM Final Drive. Pro - Specifically for Competition-Use Only. As the name suggests, the Pro Series are for those who are more serious about their racing and will give you that advantage you need to win over the competition. Forged from Grade 1 quality steel and put through our own proprietary heat treatment process, the Pro Series are several times stronger than our Street Series range and are specifically designed to endure the demanding requirements of high-power track/drag cars. To view our full range of fitments, please visit our website: http://www.mfactoryhk.com Perfomance Gains, and Comparison Chart This is based on a stock B16A2 with S4C Box (8500rpm limit, stock gear ratios, stock 4.4 FD). Note that top speed is high as this does not include Aerodynamic Drag as a factor. All speeds are Approximate but gives you a good example: Stock 1st: 40mph 2nd: 62mph 3rd: 90mph 4th: 118mph 5th: 154mph With 4.05 Final Drive: 1st: 44mph 2nd: 67mph 3rd: 97mph 4th: 128mph 5th: 167mph With 4.785 Final Drive: 1st: 37mph 2nd: 57mph 3rd: 82mph 4th: 108mph 5th: 142mph With 4.928 Final Drive: 1st: 36mph 2nd: 55mph 3rd: 80mph 4th: 105mph 5th: 137mph With Close Ratio Gear Set: 1st: 40mph 2nd: 62mph 3rd: 77mph 4th: 94mph 5th: 131mph With Close Ratio Gear Set + 4.05 Final Drive: 1st: 44mph 2nd: 67mph 3rd: 84mph 4th: 102mph 5th: 142mph With Close Ratio Gear Set + 4.785 Final Drive: 1st: 37mph 2nd: 57mph 3rd: 71mph 4th: 87mph 5th: 120mph With Close Ratio Gear Set + 4.928 Final Drive: 1st: 36mph 2nd: 55mph 3rd: 69mph 4th: 84mph 5th: 117mph
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Re: MFactory Forged Final Drives & Close Gears Information
omg, ive been meaning to add this info to the trans gearbox upgrade thread. you just made my job easy
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Re: MFactory Forged Final Drives & Close Gears Information
nice!!
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Re: MFactory Forged Final Drives & Close Gears Information
So what do you reckon is the best combination for use on a gear box that will be used on track and street! What type of gears 12345? and what type of final drive?
ps:great info!
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Re: MFactory Forged Final Drives & Close Gears Information
this was one of my planned upgrades for my EK9, the stock 3/4/5 gears drop below the VTEC zone, T1R has a more street friendly gear ratios for the 3/4/5 gears which is just a bit taller than the MFactory gear set.
much like sprockets for my sportbike, altering gear ratios is the best bang for the buck as far as modifications is concerned, Tsuchiya's TRD AE86 only has 165hp but is beating other AE86's with over 200hp b'coz of much refined gear ratios. here is the selection of gear ratios by T1R; 3rd : 1.695 / 1.625 4th : 1.385 / 1.296 5th : 0.969 / 1.000
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Re: MFactory Forged Final Drives & Close Gears Information
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Re: MFactory Forged Final Drives & Close Gears Information
when you shift it at 8500rpm what rpm does it fall down to?
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Re: MFactory Forged Final Drives & Close Gears Information
With the MF kit 3rd (1.695) & 4th (1.296) only drop 1k, they do 3 short 5th gears - 1.000 drops 2.5k (not short enough - I need to change mine), 1.130 drops 1.5k, and 1.210 not sure on the drop but a limited top speed of 105mph with this one (too short imo). I wouldnt bother with their longer 1st unless you are a quarter mile king as there really isnt much in it.
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Re: MFactory Forged Final Drives & Close Gears Information
I have their 4.785 final drive in my ek9, and LOVE IT!! The car feels so much more aggressive now, and my fourth gear feels like my third gear.
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Re: MFactory Forged Final Drives & Close Gears Information
Who says that drag racing has nothing in it? In my country all the Type r's are drag racers. We do not do circuit or autocross here because people love theirs cars tooooo much to have another car rearend them in a turn
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Re: MFactory Forged Final Drives & Close Gears Information
If you are meaning my last comment, what I meant was:
Stock 1st is around 39mph and 5.5k rpm when you change into 2nd. MF longer first takes you to around 41mph and 5.8k rpm when you change into 2nd. (Taken from an MF post).
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Re: MFactory Forged Final Drives & Close Gears Information
Hey guys,
here's some part numbers/ratios/msrps for you ![]() Close Ratio Gears: MF-TRS-01B B16A/18C - 3.070 1st Gear - $249.95 MF-TRS-01B12 B16A/18C - 1.625/1.296 - $624.95 MF-TRS-01B12A B16A/18C - 1.695/1.296 - $624.95 MF-TRS-01B12B B16A/18C - 1.625/1.296/1.000 - $749.95 MF-TRS-02B12C B16A/18C - 1.695/1.296/1.000 - $749.95 MF-TRS-01B12D B16A/18C - 1.625/1.296/1.130 - $799.95 MF-TRS-01B12E B16A/18C - 1.695/1.296/1.130 - $799.95 MF-TRS-01B12F B16A/18C - 1.625/1.296/1.210 - $799.95 MF-TRS-01B12G B16A/18C - 1.695/1.296/1.210 - $799.95 MF-TRS-01B13 B16A/18C - 1.625/1.384 - $624.95 MF-TRS-01B13A B16A/18C - 1.695/1.384 - $624.95 MF-TRS-01B13B B16A/18C - 1.625/1.384/1.000 - $749.95 MF-TRS-02B13C B16A/18C - 1.695/1.384/1.000 - $749.95 MF-TRS-01B13D B16A/18C - 1.625/1.384/1.130 - $799.95 MF-TRS-01B13E B16A/18C - 1.695/1.384/1.130 - $799.95 MF-TRS-01B13F B16A/18C - 1.625/1.384/1.210 - $799.95 MF-TRS-01B13G B16A/18C - 1.695/1.384/1.210 - $799.95 For the high-power drag cars, we are currently developing our new range of high-strength 2nd/3rd/4th gears (3rd/4th are straight cut): MF-TRS-01BP B16A/18C Pro - 2.000/1.430/1.100 - $TBA Final Drive Gears: MF-TRS-02B4 B16A2 - 4.05 - $549.95 MF-TRS-02B4P B16A2 - 4.05 Pro $749.95 MF-TRS-02B4A B16B/18C - 4.05 - $549.95 MF-TRS-02B4AP B16B/18C - 4.05 Pro - $749.95 MF-TRS-02B47 B16A2 - 4.785 - $549.95 MF-TRS-02B47P B16A2 - 4.785 Pro - $749.95 MF-TRS-02B47A B16B/18C - 4.785 - $549.95 MF-TRS-02B47AP B16B/18C - 4.785 Pro - $749.95 MF-TRS-02B49 B16A2 - 4.928 - $549.95 MF-TRS-02B49P B16A2 - 4.928 Pro - $749.95 MF-TRS-02B49A B16B/18C - 4.928 - $549.95 MF-TRS-02B49AP B16B/18C - 4.928 Pro - $749.95 Pro Series: Designed for high-power applications (300hp+) If you want to see the speed/rpm comparisons between the different ratios, feel free to play around with our gearing calculator on our website. If any of you guys have any transmission/gearing questions (anything, not just our products), please feel free to ask and I will see what I can do to help
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Re: MFactory Forged Final Drives & Close Gears Information
With Close Ratio Gear Set + 4.05 Final Drive:
1st: 44mph 2nd: 67mph 3rd: 84mph 4th: 102mph 5th: 142mph http://www.teammfactory.com/gearcalc...ission+1+and+2 this setup seems the best to me by far, retains top speed but closens the ratios nicely, only thing is once you drop it on the gear calculator you will drop out of vtec on 1st to 2nd change as the shift point is too low, but in practice your always in 2nd anyway when circuit / street driving so not too much of a problem,, edit,, car when stock still goes in vtec from 1st to 2nd and with this setup you come in slightly higher, now i`m really confused :-0
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Re: MFactory Forged Final Drives & Close Gears Information
There is no difference in shift point from 1st/2nd between the oem and new setup, as you've only changed the Final Drive, which doesn't affect the gap between your 1st/2nd. If you stay in vtec with the oem setup, you will stay in vtec with the new setup.
If you are wanting to bring your 1st/2nd closer together, then you should change to our longer 3.070 1st gear
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